Need image of Edward IV banner

Amanda M · Post by **Amanda M** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:51 pm

I was wondering if anyone out there has a good picture of Edward IV's banner as seen in this The Battle of Tewkesbury print. I can't make out enough detail to be able to reproduce it.

chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:11 pm

Are you referring to his Badge-banner? Or his standard?

Amanda M · Post by **Amanda M** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:27 pm

The standard. I have a customer who wants me to replicate it but I can't find a decent picture on the web. Probably because I'm not searching for the right thing.

chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:56 pm

Okay,

His Standard - this is the long, generally triangular flag (yards long) It had St. Georges arms in the Hoist, was murray and blue the length of it, and had as the chief badge, next the St. Georges arms, the Falcon and Fetterlock, I believe, and was sprinkles with the Sun in Splendour badge, as well as the White Rose.

The badge banner is rectangular, and never bears more than one badge, again, Murray and Blue, and either the Rose Ensoliel, the Sun in Splendour, the Lion of March, the Falcoa and the Fetterlock, or what ever particular Yorkist badge is being displayed. This type of small banner (much handier than the standard), is speculated to have been used to array men of a particular lordship, using one specific badge, with the Murray and Blue livery colours as the overall unifying factor.

There is no extant heraldry complation from his reign, what we know about the standards and banners comes from a Heraldry manuscript of Henry VII reign, as I recollect.

I believe Graham used that as the source for the Tewkesbury heraldry displayed in that painting. I am not 100 % sure that the roll of arms from Henry VII reign is entirely correct, as it was compiled in the 1490's as I recollect.

There is a list of badges of various Yorkist supporters in a poem of the 1460's, called "The Rose of Rouen"

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:41 pm

There is a color rendition of the standard in Stephen Turnbull's The Book of the Medieval Knight- much as Chef described, but azure above, murrey below, and powdered with white roses but not the sun in splendor. I can scan it for you if you don't have access to the book.

Klaus