Westminster Effigy notes
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:30 pm
Some notes from standing around looking at stuff in Westminster a few weeks ago. I had my crackberry with me, and was writing notes with that the entire time, spelling and lucidity are thusly questionable. Feel free to ask any question about the notes and I will try to straighten them out. Biblio note *MEGB* refers to Monutmental Effigies of Great Britian, which I had to use to sort out whose effigies I was looking at.
Unknown (John of eltham, earl of cornwall, died 1334 *MEGB*)
http://www.westminster-abbey.org/histor ... ople/32138
Small band (no thicker than a regular lame) over at elbow.. 3 lames under.
Rondel at elbow is over all lames
At helmet, triangular draping attached via vervelle. The band at the helmet line
is not attached to same vervelles. No representation of chain (artistic?)Coif is
1 piece, starts at the coronet band.
Top of helmet has quattrefoil piece overlapping the peak, this is oriented with
the bottom of one of the trefoils in line with the front ridge of the helmet
Gaunlets represented are back of hand as the foundation with a knuckle bow under
it. 1 piece tarsal coverage is under the knuckles. Gadling over, next tarsals
are under, with tips under that. 3 lames under at wrist, with 3 lames rotating
to the under-inside of the arm. The main lames appear to be over vambrase the
lower wrist ones are represented under the vambrace.
Aketon is split at hip, continuing to crotch level in front, the back continues to upper calf. The next garmet is dagged at the bottom with trefoils
and stops mid thigh. The next garmet is pleated, and stops at knee. Of note,
this garment is in 2 layers, the top is at an angle.
The knee cop has no backing delineation(I.e. The cop simply does not end, all
encompassing around the knee) there is a piece that runs down the center ( which
is in a distinct V Shape) seam. And ends in trefoil dagging at the top of the
calf. No representation of a flaired edge.
The sabatons are 5 lame, all under.
The spurs are prick style, with a bird head holding the ring on the inside of
the maleolis.
Legs are crossed
Another unkown (william de valence, earl of pembroke, died 1296 *MEGB*)
hammered metal over wood.
Early. All maile withwoven band at brow line. The chaine is visible underneath.
This banding is also visible at the wrists. Of note, legs are straight. The
whole effigy is hammered copper or bronze over wood. And nailed in place. The
bands are also at the elbow. Theorize that they are in place to cover the joins of the sheets of metal.
Bernard Brocas http://www.westminster-abbey.org/histor ... ople/12143
Bascinet is backpointed. There is a raised ridge at the bottom of the helmet.
Chain coif? Is under the helmet.
Resting on another helmet which appears to be pembroke style. Liner of the
pembroke 8 triangles at the top and 1 vertical seam represented near the right
ear. This is very distinctly a layer seperate of the outter of the helmet.
shoulder are typical spaulders with what appears to be a gutter rerebrace,
single buckle at mid bicep. Smallish fan (1 strap at elbow joint) with 2 upper
lames and 1 under. Vambrace appears to be fully covering 2 piece. Gauntlets are
1 piece belled demi. The inner wrist appears to have 2 lames side by side. All
fingers and thumb have 1 lame under the demi, then tarsals. gadlings are over,
with 3 lames (all going anderneath each other) on the index finger. The thumb
and other 3 fingers have only 2 lames. It does appear that these also have a
fingernail imprinted, but the index does not (no edge like the other 3.
Breastplate is under the aketon (and over chain)with the peak at the level of the base of the thumb, while holding hands in prayer, approx
mid sternum. Breastplate may be a 2 piece. With the aketon under . Aketon lacing
starts underneath the line of the breastplate on the sides. Dagged at bottom
(scallops)and what appears to be chain underneath it. It ends at upper mid
thigh..
Cuise is pronounced V with a midsized fan with 1 lame upper and lower. There is
a seam in the mddle of the outter thigh. Does not appear to represent chainmail.
Greave is 1 piece front, shaped in such a way as to appear to only be the front.
I.e. Not enclosed.
Sabatons are traditional shape, with 4 lames under.
Spurs are round-circle..
Sword appears to be single handed with round pommel. Appears to start at belt
level (the hilt sits just above the belt) and runs to lower calf.
Legs are straight
There is an indistinguishable piece on the floor of the effigy that appear to
attach to the belt, just behind the sword.
Unknown (John of eltham, earl of cornwall, died 1334 *MEGB*)
http://www.westminster-abbey.org/histor ... ople/32138
Small band (no thicker than a regular lame) over at elbow.. 3 lames under.
Rondel at elbow is over all lames
At helmet, triangular draping attached via vervelle. The band at the helmet line
is not attached to same vervelles. No representation of chain (artistic?)Coif is
1 piece, starts at the coronet band.
Top of helmet has quattrefoil piece overlapping the peak, this is oriented with
the bottom of one of the trefoils in line with the front ridge of the helmet
Gaunlets represented are back of hand as the foundation with a knuckle bow under
it. 1 piece tarsal coverage is under the knuckles. Gadling over, next tarsals
are under, with tips under that. 3 lames under at wrist, with 3 lames rotating
to the under-inside of the arm. The main lames appear to be over vambrase the
lower wrist ones are represented under the vambrace.
Aketon is split at hip, continuing to crotch level in front, the back continues to upper calf. The next garmet is dagged at the bottom with trefoils
and stops mid thigh. The next garmet is pleated, and stops at knee. Of note,
this garment is in 2 layers, the top is at an angle.
The knee cop has no backing delineation(I.e. The cop simply does not end, all
encompassing around the knee) there is a piece that runs down the center ( which
is in a distinct V Shape) seam. And ends in trefoil dagging at the top of the
calf. No representation of a flaired edge.
The sabatons are 5 lame, all under.
The spurs are prick style, with a bird head holding the ring on the inside of
the maleolis.
Legs are crossed
Another unkown (william de valence, earl of pembroke, died 1296 *MEGB*)
hammered metal over wood.
Early. All maile withwoven band at brow line. The chaine is visible underneath.
This banding is also visible at the wrists. Of note, legs are straight. The
whole effigy is hammered copper or bronze over wood. And nailed in place. The
bands are also at the elbow. Theorize that they are in place to cover the joins of the sheets of metal.
Bernard Brocas http://www.westminster-abbey.org/histor ... ople/12143
Bascinet is backpointed. There is a raised ridge at the bottom of the helmet.
Chain coif? Is under the helmet.
Resting on another helmet which appears to be pembroke style. Liner of the
pembroke 8 triangles at the top and 1 vertical seam represented near the right
ear. This is very distinctly a layer seperate of the outter of the helmet.
shoulder are typical spaulders with what appears to be a gutter rerebrace,
single buckle at mid bicep. Smallish fan (1 strap at elbow joint) with 2 upper
lames and 1 under. Vambrace appears to be fully covering 2 piece. Gauntlets are
1 piece belled demi. The inner wrist appears to have 2 lames side by side. All
fingers and thumb have 1 lame under the demi, then tarsals. gadlings are over,
with 3 lames (all going anderneath each other) on the index finger. The thumb
and other 3 fingers have only 2 lames. It does appear that these also have a
fingernail imprinted, but the index does not (no edge like the other 3.
Breastplate is under the aketon (and over chain)with the peak at the level of the base of the thumb, while holding hands in prayer, approx
mid sternum. Breastplate may be a 2 piece. With the aketon under . Aketon lacing
starts underneath the line of the breastplate on the sides. Dagged at bottom
(scallops)and what appears to be chain underneath it. It ends at upper mid
thigh..
Cuise is pronounced V with a midsized fan with 1 lame upper and lower. There is
a seam in the mddle of the outter thigh. Does not appear to represent chainmail.
Greave is 1 piece front, shaped in such a way as to appear to only be the front.
I.e. Not enclosed.
Sabatons are traditional shape, with 4 lames under.
Spurs are round-circle..
Sword appears to be single handed with round pommel. Appears to start at belt
level (the hilt sits just above the belt) and runs to lower calf.
Legs are straight
There is an indistinguishable piece on the floor of the effigy that appear to
attach to the belt, just behind the sword.