Res Ducis, Gaston(November last minute vid up)
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We were both throwing a lot of flat leg wraps. I've been recording a lot of people at 300fps and so far it seems everyone throws a lot of flat leg wraps. Look at my crown list video and you'll see the same.
I don't see flat moulinets. Maybe give me timestamps and I'll look.
I think what might be happenning is not knowing what you're seeing because of the twist in the shot. The angle of impact changes slightly at the very end of the shot and is not always perpendicular to the surface of the helm. Flat moulinets do happen, I'm just not seeing them here.
I think most people will be shocked to see themselves under this camera.
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I don't see flat moulinets. Maybe give me timestamps and I'll look.
I think what might be happenning is not knowing what you're seeing because of the twist in the shot. The angle of impact changes slightly at the very end of the shot and is not always perpendicular to the surface of the helm. Flat moulinets do happen, I'm just not seeing them here.
I think most people will be shocked to see themselves under this camera.
G
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4:30 and 5:34. Both look close after multiple viewings. Perhaps I don't understand all the mechanics of how it is thrown.
I agree though that this camera has an amazing ablitity to make us rethink some things we assume about our fighting. Thank you again for posting these.
I agree though that this camera has an amazing ablitity to make us rethink some things we assume about our fighting. Thank you again for posting these.
"I think you're wrong in your understanding of fighting.... though what you have written is very manly, it does not convey a real sense of clue...." - Sir Christian The German
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BdeB wrote:4:30 and 5:34. Both look close after multiple viewings. Perhaps I don't understand all the mechanics of how it is thrown.
I agree though that this camera has an amazing ablitity to make us rethink some things we assume about our fighting. Thank you again for posting these.
5:34 isn't flat. Hard to have language to describe it but the blow comes in from Jebe's left at 0 degrees to the horizon, and the blade is also oriented at 0 degrees from the horizon on "impact" (doesn't really impact much, kinda skips off).
4:30 is a bit more complicated but I think it was flat. I just watched like 6 times to try and see for sure. I think Baldar adjusted the blow angle after it was already started and failed to properly orient the blade. I'm going to go over that shot with him next time I'm at his house just as I know he's already done himself with the leg blows...
300fps is an awesome tool.
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Gaston de Vieuxchamps wrote:BdeB wrote:4:30 and 5:34. Both look close after multiple viewings. Perhaps I don't understand all the mechanics of how it is thrown.
I agree though that this camera has an amazing ablitity to make us rethink some things we assume about our fighting. Thank you again for posting these.
5:34 isn't flat. Hard to have language to describe it but the blow comes in from Jebe's left at 0 degrees to the horizon, and the blade is also oriented at 0 degrees from the horizon on "impact" (doesn't really impact much, kinda skips off).
4:30 is a bit more complicated but I think it was flat. I just watched like 6 times to try and see for sure. I think Baldar adjusted the blow angle after it was already started and failed to properly orient the blade. I'm going to go over that shot with him next time I'm at his house just as I know he's already done himself with the leg blows...
300fps is an awesome tool.
G
Like I said, in review, they both looked very close to being good/flat. I would love to see some of the best guys out there under this microscope, espically the ones with really fast hands.
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BdeB wrote:Like I said, in review, they both looked very close to being good/flat. I would love to see some of the best guys out there under this microscope, espically the ones with really fast hands.
Absolutely...Ailgheannan, Brannos, Jade, countless others that work their hands too fast for most to follow...that I'd love.
If nothing else than to watch how they throw the damn things.
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Cisco wrote:Absolutely...Ailgheannan, Brannos, Jade, countless others that work their hands too fast for most to follow...that I'd love.
If nothing else than to watch how they throw the damn things.
You can always ask them if/when you see them at an event.
Unless you diametrically from them.
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I do, every chance I get (with the ones that are anywhere near close to me). And Duke Brannos' instructional videos are amazing and helped (and continue to help) me a lot.
But it's different to watch them in video, fighting a great opponent, when they are on top of their game. Now to take that and slow it down and watch it several times? That's the best help for me to see how it works.
But it's different to watch them in video, fighting a great opponent, when they are on top of their game. Now to take that and slow it down and watch it several times? That's the best help for me to see how it works.
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Cisco wrote:I do, every chance I get (with the ones that are anywhere near close to me). And Duke Brannos' instructional videos are amazing and helped (and continue to help) me a lot.
But it's different to watch them in video, fighting a great opponent, when they are on top of their game. Now to take that and slow it down and watch it several times? That's the best help for me to see how it works.
I know. I am fortunate in that I get to recieve training from HG Brannos.
Now... I would like to get some stick time with HG Baldar and HG Gaston (If I remember correctly, he supported me in a quest I was doing during Pennsic 2005 - I think he was Prince then).
There are many others I approach an ask for training when I get the chance.
These training videos are GREAT! I watch them as often as I can.
Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Churchill, 1941
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Gaston de Vieuxchamps wrote:BdeB wrote:
Like I said, in review, they both looked very close to being good/flat. I would love to see some of the best guys out there under this microscope, espically the ones with really fast hands.
I'd have to say Baldar is one of the best.
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Without a doubt. One of the best ever.
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First, thanks for staying with the res ducis and posting once a month.
I enjoy watching these videos immensely and I'm alway's looking forward to the next one.
It may please you to know, that even without footage of ourselves at 300 fps, but just by watching your films, awareness of blade orientation in various techniques have increased in our area. The number of flats thrown have (we believe) conversely decreased.
Thanks again, I hope you'll have the motivation to keep this up for a long long time!
I enjoy watching these videos immensely and I'm alway's looking forward to the next one.
Gaston de Vieuxchamps wrote:I think most people will be shocked to see themselves under this camera.
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It may please you to know, that even without footage of ourselves at 300 fps, but just by watching your films, awareness of blade orientation in various techniques have increased in our area. The number of flats thrown have (we believe) conversely decreased.
Thanks again, I hope you'll have the motivation to keep this up for a long long time!
Gaston de Vieuxchamps wrote:BdeB wrote:
Like I said, in review, they both looked very close to being good/flat. I would love to see some of the best guys out there under this microscope, espically the ones with really fast hands.
I'd have to say Baldar is one of the best.
G
Perhaps my typing wasn't clear....Baldar is legendary in Trimaris and the Society. I meant in addition to just folks from your Kingdom. I.E. others from around the Society. Other 'Uber-Dukes' for lack of a better term.
Imagine watching Steffan von Dresdan under this scope....
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I'm looking to see what to post next. I considered posting new video with commentary rather than recording over another one of the vids I've already posted but the remaining unposted footage from that day in Baldar's backyard is fighting by EMP rules rather than SCA. Might just go with what's already edited instead.
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Throwing in a vote for more commentary videos of lefty vs righty fights.
Also with the upcoming war season perhaps a piece on spear work? I'm not sure if that really applies to what you are trying to accomplish here but thought I would bring it up.
Also with the upcoming war season perhaps a piece on spear work? I'm not sure if that really applies to what you are trying to accomplish here but thought I would bring it up.
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Duke gaston,
will there be any more?
I really enjoy watching these, and I have learned a lot from them.
Thank you.
will there be any more?
I really enjoy watching these, and I have learned a lot from them.
Thank you.
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I would like to publicly beg Duke Gaston to do more of these. I'm commuting 4 hours (round trip) once-a-week to Fighter Practise, and anything I can do on the other six days (besides workout, mirror work, and pell) is worth its weight in virtual gold.
Seriously, Your Grace. I will YouTube myself begging on my knees in 300 FPS if it will make a difference. With commentary.
Seriously, Your Grace. I will YouTube myself begging on my knees in 300 FPS if it will make a difference. With commentary.
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For peoples amusement - another vid from us down here in Lochac...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVTFQFmsXU
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(ok so I need to work out how to do this embed thing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVTFQFmsXU
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(ok so I need to work out how to do this embed thing)
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Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbJHGYI0hI
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moxtj5nQH3c
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbJHGYI0hI
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moxtj5nQH3c
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