Rus helm for Greenshield

Donngal · Post by **Donngal** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:24 pm

This is a helmet that I built for Camric. Its based on the Chernigov 10th century find. Sometimes referred to as the "Great Polish Helm"
Its stainless with a brushed finish and a Knutt stainless aventail.

he kind of challenged me on this one about a year ago and we set up a deadline for this fall.
Its started with some pretty inspirational pictures that he sent me and went from there.

I just sent him the pictures ( I just finished it a hour ago) so he probably hasn't seen it , but I thought it came out cool so they are up here.

Im enjoying making this Rus' stuff and I hope to finish my own kit before Estrella. Well at least have it in the correct direction.

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Donngal

Richard of Rivenvale · Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:33 pm

That is beautiful!

Keegan Ingrassia · Post by **Keegan Ingrassia** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:36 pm

Good God!

I just salivated.

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:49 pm

Nice job

Vasilii · Post by **Vasilii** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:55 pm

DRAT!!! I have lost my {DROOL} emoticon

Vladimir · Post by **Vladimir** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:25 pm

Keegan Ingrassia wrote:Good God!

I just salivated.

I have to clean up too. Umm, I didn't salivate.

Token Bastard · Post by **Token Bastard** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:29 pm

Great googly moogly! That's hardcore!

-Ed

Hrolfr · Post by **Hrolfr** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:37 pm

I'll be in my bunk!

Just freakin gourgeous!!!!

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:15 am

Holy bat guano!

Wulfgar · Post by **Wulfgar** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:19 am

Sexy. are the small brass plaques filled to prevent them deforming?

TakedaSanjuichiro · Post by **TakedaSanjuichiro** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:20 am

Outstanding!

-Takeda

Ursus of Rydborg · Post by **Ursus of Rydborg** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:36 am

WOW, I err uh, WOW.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:49 am

Jolly well done.

Is the back guard offset on the inside to allow the maile to attach?

Thanks for sharing.

Hal

Rudolph · Post by **Rudolph** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:05 am

absolutely gorgeous!

Johannes · Post by **Johannes** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:45 am

Donngal is off for a weekend excursion with his wife, so I'll try to answer a couple of the questions in case he doesn't see them.

The brass plaques are thick enough that the dimples should stay without being back filled, and the dimples are pretty stubborn.

The mail is actually sewn to the brow band before it was rivetted to the helmet. We wouldn't normally do something like that because it can be a gigantic maintenance headache, but Greenshield is someone that'll take the time to keep up with it, so it should only be a small headache,

I'll tell you, the pictures really don't do this thing justice, it is way nicer in person...

shamrockarmoury · Post by **shamrockarmoury** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:43 am

Now that is some time in that helm, very very pretty

SirOlafr · Post by **SirOlafr** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:51 am

Oh my.

Purty.

Marius Brittanicus · Post by **Marius Brittanicus** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:23 am

Nothing like looking at a spiff kit when the King is whacking on you. Just when you think his Majesty has a kit to emulate..BOOM..here comes a curve ball. Great work.

Donngal · Post by **Donngal** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:17 pm

I'm here I haven't left yet.

The small plaques on the side are made from 2 pieces of brass the middle is just thick, 12 gauge. There are 4 rivets there that I blended into the brass. Like Johannes mentioned the dimples will hold up to quite a beating and dont require any filling in the back.

The part of the back plate that's exposed was really me just not having any clue how I was gonna attach the mail, what it was gonna do or need to have done. Greenshield didn't want any exposed leather so I had this crazy Idea of sewing it to the brass brow band then attaching that to the helm after the grill was done. This required to helm to have been put together in order to make the grill fit correctly. lets just say this at first made my brain hurt.
This method isn't something I'll will be doing a lot of, maybe on my own helm.

Donngal

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:22 pm

That is really, really lovely. You guys do beautiful work.

(And I am glad I have one of your hats, even if it isn't as nice at that one.)

George fH · Post by **George fH** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:46 pm

Sweet Bananaz!- I like it alot, now its time for me to dream away about yet another kit that I want- strangely often it starts with a new headpiece.... :oops:

Magnus Ulfgarsson · Post by **Magnus Ulfgarsson** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:13 pm

Very sexy.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:47 pm

What a bastard! I guess he got tired of me being prettier than him. :twisted:

That is really nice looking guys, I cant wait to see it in person.

Uric

who was just looking at Cam's other new helmet last weekend. Wait till you guys see that one as well. What a wienie.

Pitbull Armory · Post by **Pitbull Armory** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:46 am

Hi there, wow, that is a really nice looking helm. If I had the skills to make a helm like this, which I dont, The only thing Id have done different would be to leave out the raised bump at the points on the upper panels, and let the brass rivets take their place. Thank you for sharing and keep up the good work.

Take care

Pitbull

Ld Thomas Willoughby · Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:10 am

That is mega sweet. :lol:

Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular.

Motull Flakkari · Post by **Motull Flakkari** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:10 am

Its a work of art. Beautiful work. I'm gonna need a clean up. Got a pattern?

Eadrich · Post by **Eadrich** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:47 am

That is a stunning piece of work!

audax · Post by **audax** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:28 pm

Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.....

My pants feel funny....

That's a PRETTY hat.

iaenmor · Post by **iaenmor** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:50 pm

Very nice. Donngal, are the small rivets structural for joining the front/back pieces to the sides or just for looks. Just curious.

Donngal · Post by **Donngal** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:58 pm

iaenmor wrote:Very nice. Donngal, are the small rivets structural for joining the front/back pieces to the sides or just for looks. Just curious.

Small rivets? not sure which ones you mean.

there are small rivets on the brass decor, but the helm is riveted with larger 3/16th rivets.

Donngal

Donngal · Post by **Donngal** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:04 pm

Lord Thomas Willoughby wrote:That is mega sweet. Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular.

The dimpling is actually pretty simple, I just back the bottom die out of the Whitney punch so it doesnt completely punch through.

Donngal

iaenmor · Post by **iaenmor** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:34 am

Around the edge where the steel plates join. Must be more dimpling like what you did on the brass.

Ld Thomas Willoughby · Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:16 am

Donngal wrote:
Lord Thomas Willoughby wrote:That is mega sweet. Well done!!!

If you dont mind me asking.. how did you manage to make such neat dimples? A punch block of some sort? All I've tried tend to be a bit irregular.

The dimpling is actually pretty simple, I just back the bottom die out of the Whitney punch so it doesnt completely punch through.

Donngal

Ok, I'm now going to hang my head in shame after doing it so many times accidentally and then not realizing that was how you did it. :oops:

Mord · Post by **Mord** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:53 am

Ah....very, very nice!

Mord.