Phyrgian Faceplate Italo-Norman Helm Question

[Mega Zenjirou Yoshi]

I am in lust with a particular helm, an early transitional, Phyrgian cap with a crudely tooled faceplate.
Shamrock has a picture of one here

here is an example of a non-SCA legal interpretation
http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Norman_Phrygian_Helmet_GH1099.html

I first saw it on Christian Fletcher's site, back when he was doing armour.
Where does the inspiration for the embossing come from? Does anyone have a primary source image, or is it just a SCAdianism that looks cool and caught on?

[Gerhard von Liebau]

This little sucker.

[Gwynnin]

when/where is that image from?
Thanks!

[Feargus]

I just got mine from shamrock..and just looking at it makes me happy.

Literally, it gives me warm and fuzzies just thinking about wearing it.

Get it. You know you want to, and Jackie's Awesome to work with.

[Mega Zenjirou Yoshi]

I just got mine from shamrock..and just looking at it makes me happy.

Literally, it gives me warm and fuzzies just thinking about wearing it.

Get it. You know you want to, and Jackie's Awesome to work with.

Feargus- Got pics?

Do you mind me asking ballpark how much you paid for it, and how long it took to receive? I have a request for a quote out to Jackie, and am pretty sure I am going to order from him, I just need to know how much I gotta butter up the exchequer.

Gerhard- +1 on the request for details about the image. I can guess late 12th century, Mediterranean, because it looks like a fresco. But more details are always appreciated, and frescoes were like tattoos, rarely does someone get only one...

[Feargus]

I can try and take some tonight. It's sexy.

Ballpark, it was around $500 plus extra's. Oil blackened Mild, with a nice brass nasal.
Depending on what you choose for options (type and thickness of steel, brasswork), it may run you more or less.

I still need to pad and strap it. I really should have done it by now, but I've been busy and hate doing it. and several other lame excuses as well.

[Ulrich Halfdan Ulfsson]

I have the Knotwolf version of that style and I love it. Great protection, awesome vision.

[Gerhard von Liebau]

I don't have any books on this subject at my apartment with me, but it's mid-late 12th century, Southern Italy. I'll get around to doing some research regarding its providence when I have a chance later this afternoon, to see if I can dig if up online.

-Gerhard

[Ernst]

A fresco at the Church of Sts. John and Paul (SS Giovanni e Paolo), Spoleto, Umbia, Italy. The scene depicts the Martyrdom of Thomas Becket in 1170. The painting is often compared to works from the 1180s, but some believe the spatial composition points to the early 13th century, so, c. 1180-1210?

http://www.ktucitywalks.co.uk/512.html

[Gerhard von Liebau]

Danke, Ernst. That would have been hard to track down without a book reference on me... :p

-Gerhard

[Greenshield]

They can also be found in the cloister and Cathedral of Monreale close to Palermo. It dates from 1175.

Here is mine:



And a picture/drawing of the carving:


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[Effingham]

They can also be found in the cloister and Cathedral of Monreale close to Palermo. It dates from 1175.

Here is mine:

Oh, holy crap, that is beautiful. I love the green face. Damn.

DROOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

[Mega Zenjirou Yoshi]

Thanks for the pics and info, everyone!
I've decided the Phrygians like depicted here are just a little early for my persona. I'm commissioning a round-topped face plated crusader cap from Shamrock instead.
Along these lines:


Still I love to see good looking kit from any part of the High Middle Ages. [/img]