WTS Bascinet and aventail ( Cad top)

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:29 pm

the entire helm is 12g mild steel, its about a decade old now with zero dents. it has some minor dings (metal on metal contact) but overall still shiny. ( need a run on the buffing wheel)

the top was made by Master cad of the midrealm who doesnt make armor anymore I dont think.

the aventail is a stainless steel custom knut order with brass dags and a brass border.

all the hardware is included sans padding.

[img]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z169/sirsdg/DSC00572.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z169/sirsdg/DSC00573.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z169/sirsdg/DSC00574.jpg[/img]

id like to sell them as a pair of course and im open to offers.[/img]

Sigtyr · Post by **Sigtyr** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:24 pm

PM sent

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:04 pm

Size?

Price?

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:19 pm

Price?

Interest!

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:16 pm

hmm my head is 22 1/2 "
could go an inch bigger easy IE would fit 23 1/2"

Im seeing what interest / offers I can get on the AA. ( getting a guage for price, a good one of course and Ill sell. so.... I guess start bidding and Ill maintain a reserve.

Payn · Post by **Payn** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:18 pm

Samuel wrote:hmm my head is 22 1/2 "
could go an inch bigger easy IE would fit 23 1/2"

Im seeing what interest / offers I can get on the AA. ( getting a guage for price, a good one of course and Ill sell. so.... I guess start bidding and Ill maintain a reserve.

Grr, People need bigger egos.. i.e. this is too small

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:20 pm

shave your head:D

Randy W · Post by **Randy W** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:24 pm

that's a swwt helm and I'd be willing to shave my head to fit .... but I need 25+" .. I'd be shaving well past the skull ....

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:32 pm

the helm is 29" around. I havent the inclination to do the math but.. should give a better idea of what all heads it will take.

Tally · Post by **Tally** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:49 pm

What does the brass say? I swear it looks like it says "Je suis seule." That can't be right.

Sigtyr · Post by **Sigtyr** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:03 pm

Too small for me.

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:03 am

the brass is some saying my ex-wife got for me off bablefish I think. supposed to be something along the lines of " this helm is property of samuel if found please return."
at this point its mostly squiggly lines:D

Eltz-Kempenich · Post by **Eltz-Kempenich** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:19 am

Cad is still making armour to some degree, but I'll say that the helm certainly looks plausibly his. It very much is in his style, save for the grill, which is a bit different than I usually see him do. Does it have is name stamped into the back at all? It is usually his M-O to do so.

However, I'll tell you that if it can be confirmed to be made by Cad, you can get a pretty price for it.

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:20 am

'CAD' in back....

same helm worn by me in fall 03 midrealm crown as seen on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38VSrorKZxA

I got the top from him while I was stationed in turkey. the grill is modeled after eldrids work.

If you read the whole post I did SAY " the top was made by master cad"
no illisions here..

since he was at midrealm crown in 03 and remarked how pleased two of his helms where in the finals Id think he wouldnt suddenly deny this helms existance.
[img]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z169/sirsdg/DSC00575.jpg[/img]

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:10 am

It's pretty, bulletproof and by Cad, and my head's the right size. I'd be on it if only I hadn't just spent this season's major armor budget on fingered gauntlets. Se la vie.

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:38 am

Wish I had a guesstimate for an offer... help!

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:41 pm

Between Cad's work and the Knuut camail, I wouldn't start lower than $500 (inasmuch as I can't afford it regardless.

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Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:48 pm

As usual, I will begin a bit lower than the average low and let fate have its way with me...

$450 to start

Eltz-Kempenich · Post by **Eltz-Kempenich** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:03 pm

I didn't mean to be imprudent at all, I was just concerned for my friend is all. I just wanted to be sure you weren't using his name to fetch a bigger price or anything like that. Cad's helms are highly prized, and seldom are found on the resale market. I hope you didn't take offense at all. Sometimes dishonesty works its way into the classified and I was just doing my part to help with that.

Best of luck on the sale, and to whomever wins this helm. It will indeed last you for years!

NeeSayer · Post by **NeeSayer** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:20 pm

TheÃ³dwyn Kelsale wrote:As usual, I will begin a bit lower than the average low and let fate have its way with me...

$450 to start

I would imagine anything shy of 700 (low balling it) would be insufficient for a cad helm and custom aventail

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:18 pm

Eltz-Kempenich wrote:I didn't mean to be imprudent at all, I was just concerned for my friend is all. I just wanted to be sure you weren't using his name to fetch a bigger price or anything like that. Cad's helms are highly prized, and seldom are found on the resale market. I hope you didn't take offense at all. Sometimes dishonesty works its way into the classified and I was just doing my part to help with that.

Best of luck on the sale, and to whomever wins this helm. It will indeed last you for years!

not a problem.. I actually met cad first when I lived in rochester theodl archer, therica and "bob" told me about him and I made a trek up to the st paul area to meet him. shortly after I hit him up for a helm I knew he had in the shop:D ( this being in the early 90s)

the top is his. the grill is by me using a brion price center pivot. I had reasoned if ever I wanted to make another visor, best to have a supply of hinges.

His visors generally have square barstock down the center so I can understand questioning it.

Im selling it because im on blood thinners after getting a pulmonary embolism from surgery and may be on them for life. with that facing me I decided to make a whole new kit in the hope that I wont, when I take the field again it will be very much a phoenix moment.

Eltz-Kempenich · Post by **Eltz-Kempenich** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:44 pm

It sounds like we have a number of shared friends then, if you're referring to Theoweard L'Archier down in Rochester. I did recognize the hinge as one of Brian's, but Cad has been known to make them that way by hand. Tomorrow Cad and I are actually going to be in the shop to do the attachment for my hinge and grill - I'm excited to learn his method.

I wish you the very best, Samuel, if you take the field again. I have a good friend, Cad's apprentice Frederick, who is experiencing something similar. He has grown attached to the metamorphosis of the dragonfly metaphor. Its a tough road, but with patience and care you can play again. Cheers!

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:32 pm

NeeSayer wrote:
TheÃ³dwyn Kelsale wrote:As usual, I will begin a bit lower than the average low and let fate have its way with me...

$450 to start

I would imagine anything shy of 700 (low balling it) would be insufficient for a cad helm and custom aventail

As I said, let fate take me where it will! $500

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:34 pm

this is not the bump your lookin for...

Garick · Post by **Garick** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:42 pm

This thread makes me feel old. I remember both Alaric and Samuel as "up and coming unbelts." To see a clip of them both as knights and fighting in the finals of Midrealm Crown... and realize that this happened over 7 years ago... unpossible.

Cheers,
Garick
who still thinks of *himself* as a relatively new knight...

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:18 pm

glad to help Garick:D

sorry I cant do 500.00

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:42 pm

no interest ??

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:43 pm

Plenty of interest, just apparently not at the right price point!

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:48 pm

Any interest at all in separating the pieces?

Do you have a figure in your head you are more comfortable parting ways with it for?

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:00 pm

hmm. I dont know what Cad sells helm for now but considering its years and it still dent free.

Id take 700 for the whole as a starting bid.

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:07 pm

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:17 pm

ok.. going to alternative means of sale.

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:47 am

Keep me posted Samuel - I have plenty of interest just not that amount of available funds at the moment!

T

Theodwyn Kelsale · Post by **Theodwyn Kelsale** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:11 pm

Did this thing ever get sold? I just got my yearly bonus and, well, hehe - I WANT IT!

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:14 pm

nope. still got it.. I was plannin on going up to my shop and polishing it next weekend