I am learning a throw called Tsuri Komi Goshi right now in Judo.
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/tsurikomigoshi.htm
It has been banned from competitive Judo tournaments for very good reasons. The remote posssibility that someone could attempt this, as a form of grappling, in an SCA martial activity gives me the willies. It is because I see throwing as a subset of grappling that I like seeing a ban on grappling right now while the rules and defitions are being clarified.
Historical Combat Instruction not allowed? -SCA
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Russ Mitchell
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The animation is deceptive. If either the thrower and the throwee don't do their job correctly, there's a good chance for neck injury. Not difficult at all for a minor change to turn an otherwise safe throw into a potentially lethal one.
In practice... one has a controlled environment and more importantly, very controlled attitudes. In competition... potential for injury is too great.
[This message has been edited by Edwin (edited 09-04-2003).]
In practice... one has a controlled environment and more importantly, very controlled attitudes. In competition... potential for injury is too great.
[This message has been edited by Edwin (edited 09-04-2003).]
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Wynne
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Greeting again,
Thanks all for your imput,
I've finally gotten some additional information on this subject that may, or may not, put some of you at ease. My seneshal sent me an e-mail today, with the following attached,...
Be aware that I am passing on information forwarded to me and therefore I would consider it third person at the best, and heresay at the worst, but I thought it should be brought up anyway...
Here it goes...
Subject: Re: Studying techniques not allowed in SCA combat
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm writing you today because sometime over the last few days you wrote
>and/or called me in my capacity as Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>concerning recent rulings by some portion of that office. I'm sorry to be
>responding in this "mass" letter, but if I wait to find time to write
>separate letters to each of the two dozen or so people who contacted me
>concerning these issues, some of you might find yourselves waiting longer
>than any of us would wish. With luck this letter will answer your
>concerns or questions, but if not please contact me again for any I
>miss. I may not know the answer, but I'll try my best to find out what I can.
>
>Let me begin by thanking you for your letter or call. The vast majority of
>them were polite and well thought out despite obvious passion and some
>serious complaints.
>
>After receiving your assorted messages, I was able to spend a long time in
>phone conversation with the Society Marshal, Robert Glendon of Auk,
>earlier this week. During that conversation it became clear that their
>have definitely been some communications breakdowns, some less than ideal
>wording choices, a couple changed decisions and clarifications, and
>perhaps a few things going on that not everyone is aware of.
>
>I'm going to try to address a few of the issues you folks raised
>here. Hopefully these will catch most of your concerns.
>
>
>· The Society Marshal, like so many of us, believes that the study of
>historical techniques is a good thing and a positive addition to the
>Society, provided it can be done within the framework of safety. Many of
>the classes having been taught have been fine, but occasionally some
>people, using the excuse of historical study, have stepped beyond what he
>believes is prudent. Clearly some guidelines or regulations are needed to
>allow us to advance these fields in a reasonable manner.
>
>To this end, he has established a committee to look into the issues
>inherent in studying and recreating these historical techniques. What can
>we do safely, purely for the sake of the knowledge? And what portions can
>we perhaps incorporate into our various combat systems?
>
>
>· There was a ruling by the Earl Marshal of the Outlands, that
>instructional videos, which showed historical techniques which are illegal
>in our combat systems (throws, and grappling moves for example) would not
>be allowed to be shown at the Know World Academy of the Rapier (to be held
>in the Outlands). After some discussion, the Outlands' Marshal later
>revised his decisions, and according to the Society Marshal's reading of
>his decision, it appears these videos are in fact to be allowed.
>
>
>· There was also a ruling that classes which demonstrated historical
>techniques which are illegal in our combat systems (throws, and grappling
>moves for example) would not be allowed. Again according to the Society
>Marshal's interpretation of the Outland's Marshal's revised decision, such
>classes will in fact be allowed.
>
>However, these must take place in a classroom setting, not on the list
>field or in the main event area. It must be clear that these are
>informational classes, not classes for techniques to be used on our combat
>fields. Finally, The Society Marshal pointed out these demonstrations may
>not include actual "striking" or "throwing people to the floor." The
>typical careful move through or practice of the mechanics necessary for
>understanding the techniques are certainly permitted so long as they don't
>violate those restrictions.
>
>
>· The Society Marshal further indicated that he saw no problem with the
>hands on classes that allowed the students to take part in the study of
>these techniques - again so long as they abided by the restrictions
>mentioned above.
>
>
>· One of his concerns remains with the issue of grappling. He wishes it
>clear that grappling is not allowed on our combat fields in any form. In
>an attempt to define grappling he said it is basically intentional body to
>body contact (armor still counting as part of the body
>obviously). Incidental contact as might occur during a charge, for
>example, is not banned.
>
>
>· There have been some questions on the banning of the "wrist slap" parry
>on the rapier field. This ruling originated with the Deputy Society
>Marshal for Rapier. While some areas have perhaps been using this
>maneuver for some time, it has apparently been against the rules, and the
>recent ruling was only a clarification or interpretation of those existing
>rules.
>
>
>I hope these points have answered most of your questions, if not, please
>feel free to contact the me or the Society Marshal, and we'll do our best
>to cover additional issue, or clarify those I've failed to explain well.
>
>Please note: While this is all correct to the best of my knowledge. I am
>writing and condenseing based on my memory and interpretation of the
>conversation I had with the Society Marshal. It is certainly possible that
>I have misunderstood something or made another error, but I've certainly
>tried not to. Any mistakes are my fault.
>
>We all have an interest in the growing study of the techniques of period
>combat, be they on the rapier, side-sword, or armored combat field. The
>Society Marshal is aware of the concerns you have exhibited, and is
>honestly working to find solutions to allow an expansion of the field
>within the framework of safety and fun. Help him help you, and we'll all
>profit.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Fernando Vigil, Director - Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>
>Conde Fernando Rodriguesz de Falcon, KSCA, OP
More fuel on the fire...
Carson Wynne
Thanks all for your imput,
I've finally gotten some additional information on this subject that may, or may not, put some of you at ease. My seneshal sent me an e-mail today, with the following attached,...
Be aware that I am passing on information forwarded to me and therefore I would consider it third person at the best, and heresay at the worst, but I thought it should be brought up anyway...
Here it goes...
Subject: Re: Studying techniques not allowed in SCA combat
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm writing you today because sometime over the last few days you wrote
>and/or called me in my capacity as Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>concerning recent rulings by some portion of that office. I'm sorry to be
>responding in this "mass" letter, but if I wait to find time to write
>separate letters to each of the two dozen or so people who contacted me
>concerning these issues, some of you might find yourselves waiting longer
>than any of us would wish. With luck this letter will answer your
>concerns or questions, but if not please contact me again for any I
>miss. I may not know the answer, but I'll try my best to find out what I can.
>
>Let me begin by thanking you for your letter or call. The vast majority of
>them were polite and well thought out despite obvious passion and some
>serious complaints.
>
>After receiving your assorted messages, I was able to spend a long time in
>phone conversation with the Society Marshal, Robert Glendon of Auk,
>earlier this week. During that conversation it became clear that their
>have definitely been some communications breakdowns, some less than ideal
>wording choices, a couple changed decisions and clarifications, and
>perhaps a few things going on that not everyone is aware of.
>
>I'm going to try to address a few of the issues you folks raised
>here. Hopefully these will catch most of your concerns.
>
>
>· The Society Marshal, like so many of us, believes that the study of
>historical techniques is a good thing and a positive addition to the
>Society, provided it can be done within the framework of safety. Many of
>the classes having been taught have been fine, but occasionally some
>people, using the excuse of historical study, have stepped beyond what he
>believes is prudent. Clearly some guidelines or regulations are needed to
>allow us to advance these fields in a reasonable manner.
>
>To this end, he has established a committee to look into the issues
>inherent in studying and recreating these historical techniques. What can
>we do safely, purely for the sake of the knowledge? And what portions can
>we perhaps incorporate into our various combat systems?
>
>
>· There was a ruling by the Earl Marshal of the Outlands, that
>instructional videos, which showed historical techniques which are illegal
>in our combat systems (throws, and grappling moves for example) would not
>be allowed to be shown at the Know World Academy of the Rapier (to be held
>in the Outlands). After some discussion, the Outlands' Marshal later
>revised his decisions, and according to the Society Marshal's reading of
>his decision, it appears these videos are in fact to be allowed.
>
>
>· There was also a ruling that classes which demonstrated historical
>techniques which are illegal in our combat systems (throws, and grappling
>moves for example) would not be allowed. Again according to the Society
>Marshal's interpretation of the Outland's Marshal's revised decision, such
>classes will in fact be allowed.
>
>However, these must take place in a classroom setting, not on the list
>field or in the main event area. It must be clear that these are
>informational classes, not classes for techniques to be used on our combat
>fields. Finally, The Society Marshal pointed out these demonstrations may
>not include actual "striking" or "throwing people to the floor." The
>typical careful move through or practice of the mechanics necessary for
>understanding the techniques are certainly permitted so long as they don't
>violate those restrictions.
>
>
>· The Society Marshal further indicated that he saw no problem with the
>hands on classes that allowed the students to take part in the study of
>these techniques - again so long as they abided by the restrictions
>mentioned above.
>
>
>· One of his concerns remains with the issue of grappling. He wishes it
>clear that grappling is not allowed on our combat fields in any form. In
>an attempt to define grappling he said it is basically intentional body to
>body contact (armor still counting as part of the body
>obviously). Incidental contact as might occur during a charge, for
>example, is not banned.
>
>
>· There have been some questions on the banning of the "wrist slap" parry
>on the rapier field. This ruling originated with the Deputy Society
>Marshal for Rapier. While some areas have perhaps been using this
>maneuver for some time, it has apparently been against the rules, and the
>recent ruling was only a clarification or interpretation of those existing
>rules.
>
>
>I hope these points have answered most of your questions, if not, please
>feel free to contact the me or the Society Marshal, and we'll do our best
>to cover additional issue, or clarify those I've failed to explain well.
>
>Please note: While this is all correct to the best of my knowledge. I am
>writing and condenseing based on my memory and interpretation of the
>conversation I had with the Society Marshal. It is certainly possible that
>I have misunderstood something or made another error, but I've certainly
>tried not to. Any mistakes are my fault.
>
>We all have an interest in the growing study of the techniques of period
>combat, be they on the rapier, side-sword, or armored combat field. The
>Society Marshal is aware of the concerns you have exhibited, and is
>honestly working to find solutions to allow an expansion of the field
>within the framework of safety and fun. Help him help you, and we'll all
>profit.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Fernando Vigil, Director - Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>
>Conde Fernando Rodriguesz de Falcon, KSCA, OP
More fuel on the fire...
Carson Wynne
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Edwin:
<B>I am learning a throw called Tsuri Komi Goshi right now in Judo.
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/tsurikomigoshi.htm
It has been banned from competitive Judo tournaments for very good reasons. The remote posssibility that someone could attempt this, as a form of grappling, in an SCA martial activity gives me the willies. It is because I see throwing as a subset of grappling that I like seeing a ban on grappling right now while the rules and defitions are being clarified.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Edwin
I never wanted this in the SCA either and it will never happen its too hardcore. What I am pissed about is that pushing was done in the Historic Combat series and that is now banned. That detracts from what the game once was. There is no need to add this to normal SCA combat but no reason to ban it in a specialized tourney either.
Russ
I am with you some of the Fiore and Ringeck moves are as viscous and any modern Gracie’s style of grappling. Fiore has one where you bind a mans arm up and yours is behind him hand on the shoulder and you drop him to the ground and yourself on his back dislocating his shoulder at least, real nasty.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
<B>I am learning a throw called Tsuri Komi Goshi right now in Judo.
http://www.judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/tsurikomigoshi.htm
It has been banned from competitive Judo tournaments for very good reasons. The remote posssibility that someone could attempt this, as a form of grappling, in an SCA martial activity gives me the willies. It is because I see throwing as a subset of grappling that I like seeing a ban on grappling right now while the rules and defitions are being clarified.</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Edwin
I never wanted this in the SCA either and it will never happen its too hardcore. What I am pissed about is that pushing was done in the Historic Combat series and that is now banned. That detracts from what the game once was. There is no need to add this to normal SCA combat but no reason to ban it in a specialized tourney either.
Russ
I am with you some of the Fiore and Ringeck moves are as viscous and any modern Gracie’s style of grappling. Fiore has one where you bind a mans arm up and yours is behind him hand on the shoulder and you drop him to the ground and yourself on his back dislocating his shoulder at least, real nasty.
Flonzy
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Cheap garb is as bad as plastic armor.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/flonzy
Hello, I haven't read through every reply to your question but I can help you out. I am one of the SEM's Deputy's and have been put in charge of heading up the committee on Period Fighting Techniques and if they can safely be incorporated into the SCA. Here is a letter that was recently put forth from Fernando, the Ombudsman for the Marshallete in regards to this.
>From: Fvigil@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:19:03 EDT
>Subject: Re: Studying techniques not allowed in SCA combat
>To: kgormanshaw@rogers.com
>X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10625
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm writing you today because sometime over the last few days you wrote
>and/or called me in my capacity as Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>concerning recent rulings by some portion of that office. I'm sorry to be
>responding in this "mass" letter, but if I wait to find time to write
>separate letters to each of the two dozen or so people who contacted me
>concerning these issues, some of you might find yourselves waiting longer
>than any of us would wish. With luck this letter will answer your
>concerns or questions, but if not please contact me again for any I
>miss. I may not know the answer, but I'll try my best to find out what I can.
>
>Let me begin by thanking you for your letter or call. The vast majority of
>them were polite and well thought out despite obvious passion and some
>serious complaints.
>
>After receiving your assorted messages, I was able to spend a long time in
>phone conversation with the Society Marshal, Robert Glendon of Auk,
>earlier this week. During that conversation it became clear that their
>have definitely been some communications breakdowns, some less than ideal
>wording choices, a couple changed decisions and clarifications, and
>perhaps a few things going on that not everyone is aware of.
>
>I'm going to try to address a few of the issues you folks raised
>here. Hopefully these will catch most of your concerns.
>
>
>• The Society Marshal, like so many of us, believes that the study of
>historical techniques is a good thing and a positive addition to the
>Society, provided it can be done within the framework of safety. Many of
>the classes having been taught have been fine, but occasionally some
>people, using the excuse of historical study, have stepped beyond what he
>believes is prudent. Clearly some guidelines or regulations are needed to
>allow us to advance these fields in a reasonable manner.
>
>To this end, he has established a committee to look into the issues
>inherent in studying and recreating these historical techniques. What can
>we do safely, purely for the sake of the knowledge? And what portions can
>we perhaps incorporate into our various combat systems?
>
>
>• There was a ruling by the Earl Marshal of the Outlands, that
>instructional videos, which showed historical techniques which are illegal
>in our combat systems (throws, and grappling moves for example) would not
>be allowed to be shown at the Know World Academy of the Rapier (to be held
>in the Outlands). After some discussion, the Outlands' Marshal later
>revised his decisions, and according to the Society Marshal's reading of
>his decision, it appears these videos are in fact to be allowed.
>
>
>• There was also a ruling that classes which demonstrated historical
>techniques which are illegal in our combat systems (throws, and grappling
>moves for example) would not be allowed. Again according to the Society
>Marshal's interpretation of the Outland's Marshal's revised decision, such
>classes will in fact be allowed.
>
>However, these must take place in a classroom setting, not on the list
>field or in the main event area. It must be clear that these are
>informational classes, not classes for techniques to be used on our combat
>fields. Finally, The Society Marshal pointed out these demonstrations may
>not include actual "striking" or "throwing people to the floor." The
>typical careful move through or practice of the mechanics necessary for
>understanding the techniques are certainly permitted so long as they don't
>violate those restrictions.
>
>
>• The Society Marshal further indicated that he saw no problem with the
>hands on classes that allowed the students to take part in the study of
>these techniques - again so long as they abided by the restrictions
>mentioned above.
>
>
>• One of his concerns remains with the issue of grappling. He wishes it
>clear that grappling is not allowed on our combat fields in any form. In
>an attempt to define grappling he said it is basically intentional body to
>body contact (armor still counting as part of the body
>obviously). Incidental contact as might occur during a charge, for
>example, is not banned.
>
>
>• There have been some questions on the banning of the "wrist slap" parry
>on the rapier field. This ruling originated with the Deputy Society
>Marshal for Rapier. While some areas have perhaps been using this
>maneuver for some time, it has apparently been against the rules, and the
>recent ruling was only a clarification or interpretation of those existing
>rules.
>
>
>I hope these points have answered most of your questions, if not, please
>feel free to contact the me or the Society Marshal, and we'll do our best
>to cover additional issue, or clarify those I've failed to explain well.
>
>Please note: While this is all correct to the best of my knowledge. I am
>writing and condenseing based on my memory and interpretation of the
>conversation I had with the Society Marshal. It is certainly possible that
>I have misunderstood something or made another error, but I've certainly
>tried not to. Any mistakes are my fault.
>
>We all have an interest in the growing study of the techniques of period
>combat, be they on the rapier, side-sword, or armored combat field. The
>Society Marshal is aware of the concerns you have exhibited, and is
>honestly working to find solutions to allow an expansion of the field
>within the framework of safety and fun. Help him help you, and we'll all
>profit.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Fernando Vigil, Director - Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>
>Conde Fernando Rodriguesz de Falcon, KSCA, OP
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V. Sir Rey RiBeaumont
Kingdom of Meridies
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>From: Fvigil@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:19:03 EDT
>Subject: Re: Studying techniques not allowed in SCA combat
>To: kgormanshaw@rogers.com
>X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10625
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm writing you today because sometime over the last few days you wrote
>and/or called me in my capacity as Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>concerning recent rulings by some portion of that office. I'm sorry to be
>responding in this "mass" letter, but if I wait to find time to write
>separate letters to each of the two dozen or so people who contacted me
>concerning these issues, some of you might find yourselves waiting longer
>than any of us would wish. With luck this letter will answer your
>concerns or questions, but if not please contact me again for any I
>miss. I may not know the answer, but I'll try my best to find out what I can.
>
>Let me begin by thanking you for your letter or call. The vast majority of
>them were polite and well thought out despite obvious passion and some
>serious complaints.
>
>After receiving your assorted messages, I was able to spend a long time in
>phone conversation with the Society Marshal, Robert Glendon of Auk,
>earlier this week. During that conversation it became clear that their
>have definitely been some communications breakdowns, some less than ideal
>wording choices, a couple changed decisions and clarifications, and
>perhaps a few things going on that not everyone is aware of.
>
>I'm going to try to address a few of the issues you folks raised
>here. Hopefully these will catch most of your concerns.
>
>
>• The Society Marshal, like so many of us, believes that the study of
>historical techniques is a good thing and a positive addition to the
>Society, provided it can be done within the framework of safety. Many of
>the classes having been taught have been fine, but occasionally some
>people, using the excuse of historical study, have stepped beyond what he
>believes is prudent. Clearly some guidelines or regulations are needed to
>allow us to advance these fields in a reasonable manner.
>
>To this end, he has established a committee to look into the issues
>inherent in studying and recreating these historical techniques. What can
>we do safely, purely for the sake of the knowledge? And what portions can
>we perhaps incorporate into our various combat systems?
>
>
>• There was a ruling by the Earl Marshal of the Outlands, that
>instructional videos, which showed historical techniques which are illegal
>in our combat systems (throws, and grappling moves for example) would not
>be allowed to be shown at the Know World Academy of the Rapier (to be held
>in the Outlands). After some discussion, the Outlands' Marshal later
>revised his decisions, and according to the Society Marshal's reading of
>his decision, it appears these videos are in fact to be allowed.
>
>
>• There was also a ruling that classes which demonstrated historical
>techniques which are illegal in our combat systems (throws, and grappling
>moves for example) would not be allowed. Again according to the Society
>Marshal's interpretation of the Outland's Marshal's revised decision, such
>classes will in fact be allowed.
>
>However, these must take place in a classroom setting, not on the list
>field or in the main event area. It must be clear that these are
>informational classes, not classes for techniques to be used on our combat
>fields. Finally, The Society Marshal pointed out these demonstrations may
>not include actual "striking" or "throwing people to the floor." The
>typical careful move through or practice of the mechanics necessary for
>understanding the techniques are certainly permitted so long as they don't
>violate those restrictions.
>
>
>• The Society Marshal further indicated that he saw no problem with the
>hands on classes that allowed the students to take part in the study of
>these techniques - again so long as they abided by the restrictions
>mentioned above.
>
>
>• One of his concerns remains with the issue of grappling. He wishes it
>clear that grappling is not allowed on our combat fields in any form. In
>an attempt to define grappling he said it is basically intentional body to
>body contact (armor still counting as part of the body
>obviously). Incidental contact as might occur during a charge, for
>example, is not banned.
>
>
>• There have been some questions on the banning of the "wrist slap" parry
>on the rapier field. This ruling originated with the Deputy Society
>Marshal for Rapier. While some areas have perhaps been using this
>maneuver for some time, it has apparently been against the rules, and the
>recent ruling was only a clarification or interpretation of those existing
>rules.
>
>
>I hope these points have answered most of your questions, if not, please
>feel free to contact the me or the Society Marshal, and we'll do our best
>to cover additional issue, or clarify those I've failed to explain well.
>
>Please note: While this is all correct to the best of my knowledge. I am
>writing and condenseing based on my memory and interpretation of the
>conversation I had with the Society Marshal. It is certainly possible that
>I have misunderstood something or made another error, but I've certainly
>tried not to. Any mistakes are my fault.
>
>We all have an interest in the growing study of the techniques of period
>combat, be they on the rapier, side-sword, or armored combat field. The
>Society Marshal is aware of the concerns you have exhibited, and is
>honestly working to find solutions to allow an expansion of the field
>within the framework of safety and fun. Help him help you, and we'll all
>profit.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Fernando Vigil, Director - Ombudsman for the Marshallate
>
>Conde Fernando Rodriguesz de Falcon, KSCA, OP
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Kingdom of Meridies
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I see someone else had already posted the Message from Fernando. I will be posting a formal message here in the near future to ask for resume's for people who are interested in serving on the committee.
Rey
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Kingdom of Meridies
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Rey
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Kingdom of Meridies
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Gaston de Vieuxchamps
- Archive Member
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Whoah, sign me up!!
I want to be on that commitee. I've been involved in formal (Yoshukai Karate, Aikido, collegiate fencing) and informal (SCA, kung fu, the boffer group my friend founded) martial arts and martial sports since I was 11. That's 23 years of nearly constant practice (I slacked a few years in college). I have taught karate to adults and children for pay (one kid I taught at age 6 was southeastern forms champion on the open karate circuit for age 15-17 a few years ago). I have taught a weekly class on SCA fighting for almost three years. I served as local marshal of Oldenfeld for two years.
I have officiated at many karate tournaments and at a few kickboxing matches as well as field marshalling in the SCA for many years.
I have participated in the full spectrum of acceptable danger levels for martial sports with Japanese full-contact at one extreem (high risk) through American kickboxing (WKA and PKA), SCA heavy fighting, karate point fighting, and SCA light weapons all the way to collegiate fencing (low risk).
I am competent in every major weapons form currently practiced in the SCA except Schlager (I'm working on that) and have had some success in a few.
Though I enjoy a good rough and tumble bout in any forum and am willing to personally engage in combat that goes beyond most people's comfort levels when it comes to safety, I have an intimate understanding of the realities of safety and sports activity in large groups. As a martial arts instructor I have dealt with issues of safety and technique and methods of training in professional and amateur sttings and have an understanding of due care, liability, and responsibility.
I have a strong interest in the fectbook movement and the emerging period fighting techniques but am also a longtime addict of good old-fashioned SCA fighting. I feel that I have a balanced sense of the various factors to be weighed in dealing with the present issues.
Nathan Renaud
Duc Gaston, OC
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Non Onme Quod Licet Honestum Est
I want to be on that commitee. I've been involved in formal (Yoshukai Karate, Aikido, collegiate fencing) and informal (SCA, kung fu, the boffer group my friend founded) martial arts and martial sports since I was 11. That's 23 years of nearly constant practice (I slacked a few years in college). I have taught karate to adults and children for pay (one kid I taught at age 6 was southeastern forms champion on the open karate circuit for age 15-17 a few years ago). I have taught a weekly class on SCA fighting for almost three years. I served as local marshal of Oldenfeld for two years.
I have officiated at many karate tournaments and at a few kickboxing matches as well as field marshalling in the SCA for many years.
I have participated in the full spectrum of acceptable danger levels for martial sports with Japanese full-contact at one extreem (high risk) through American kickboxing (WKA and PKA), SCA heavy fighting, karate point fighting, and SCA light weapons all the way to collegiate fencing (low risk).
I am competent in every major weapons form currently practiced in the SCA except Schlager (I'm working on that) and have had some success in a few.
Though I enjoy a good rough and tumble bout in any forum and am willing to personally engage in combat that goes beyond most people's comfort levels when it comes to safety, I have an intimate understanding of the realities of safety and sports activity in large groups. As a martial arts instructor I have dealt with issues of safety and technique and methods of training in professional and amateur sttings and have an understanding of due care, liability, and responsibility.
I have a strong interest in the fectbook movement and the emerging period fighting techniques but am also a longtime addict of good old-fashioned SCA fighting. I feel that I have a balanced sense of the various factors to be weighed in dealing with the present issues.
Nathan Renaud
Duc Gaston, OC
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Non Onme Quod Licet Honestum Est