Crotal Bell

This forum is designed to help us spread the knowledge of armouring.
Post Reply
User avatar
Dierick
Archive Member
Posts: 2873
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:20 pm
Location: Nowhere, Colorado

Crotal Bell

Post by Dierick »

Its not armour, but it will eventually be on a harness. Just thought I would throw up a progress picture. I have no place to work on armour right now, and most of my tools are in another state anyways, so I've started working on fittings.

I couldn't find documentation for glueing on nickles so I had to go with bells. Lots and lots of bell. My estimates are around 75 total. Rather than carving them all out individually, I just made a solid one in bees wax and put together a rubber mold to pour the casting wax into. Wait five seconds, dump the excess, and you get a perfect bell half.

This is just a quickie mock up in colored beeswax, with the halves sloppily joined. I haven't gotten the casting wax yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Christoffel/crotalbell.jpg

The brass finished pieces will be soldered together with a wire loop soldered in the top, like the originals.

Eventually, way into the future when I have a place to work again, it will go on this harness:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Christoffel/1457-1457ConradLaibGraz5.jpg
Brann mac Finnchad
Archive Member
Posts: 153
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:20 am
Location: Oertha

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Brann mac Finnchad »

Cool, I never though of bells on armor--and am interested in learning to make them, as well. Is there a more complete picture of that harness?
Keep us posted.
~~Die Well~~
Brann mac Finnchad

Brann's Linkpages & Medieval News
User avatar
white mountain armoury
Archive Member
Posts: 10538
Joined: Sun Aug 20, 2000 1:01 am
Location: the Taiga

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by white mountain armoury »

Sweet, I have bells on my harness as well. although I did not make mine
Nice job
I prefer kittens
User avatar
Galfrid atte grene
Archive Member
Posts: 1382
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2003 2:01 am
Location: Maryland

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Galfrid atte grene »

Neat project. For what its worth, bells were also somewhat common on germanic harnesses in the early 15th century.
User avatar
Dierick
Archive Member
Posts: 2873
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:20 pm
Location: Nowhere, Colorado

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Dierick »

I don't think its too bad for my first attempt at carving something. I've never cast, so its a learning in progress type of thing. Once I have everything made in casting wax and on a sprue tree I gotta find someone who can cast to ship it to.

The full harness:
Image
User avatar
Buster
Archive Member
Posts: 1151
Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:09 pm

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Buster »

Wow, that would look stunning if you ever got that together.
You shouldn't have to much problem withthe casting.

I didn't realize they used bells on armour until I saw that painting, but these might be an earlier example.
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/monuments/thomas_cheyne/image/102/large/
User avatar
Ernst
Archive Member
Posts: 8802
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Jackson,MS USA

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Ernst »

Why not dish the two halves from sheet: Punch two holes and a slit, then solder together?
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
Baron Alcyoneus
Archive Member
Posts: 39578
Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:00 pm

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Baron Alcyoneus »

Bells were once required wear by tourneyers, according to some authors, and later became staples on jester garb.

Well I'm upper upper class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I've got
The biggest balls of all

Image
Vypadni z mého trávník!

Does loyalty trump truth?

"If they hurt you, hurt them back. If they kill you, walk it off."- Captain America
User avatar
Dierick
Archive Member
Posts: 2873
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:20 pm
Location: Nowhere, Colorado

Re: Crotal Bell

Post by Dierick »

Ernst wrote:Why not dish the two halves from sheet: Punch two holes and a slit, then solder together?


All of my research and studying images of surviving ones tells me they were cast in two parts at this time period. Judging from the style in the painting, with the flaired center line and ribbing, they are the same.
Post Reply