Toby Capwell kit (Awesome Kit)

Swete · Post by **Swete** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:17 pm

I had seen a brief video of Mr. Capwell's kit and I recently came across a link via Myarmoury.com to a flikr page of his whole kit and piece by piece photos. *Drool*
Just wanted to share the armour pron goodness.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12591757@N ... 179765065/
The whole blackened look is so awesome! (I much prefer it over the shiny type)

Ckanite · Post by **Ckanite** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:19 pm

now THAT is just drop dead gorgous!!!

coreythompsonhm · Post by **coreythompsonhm** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:28 pm

Mmmmm blackened armour.....

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:44 pm

Just for the record...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146453&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123979&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112865&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46753&hilit=capwell+harness

EnglishSteel · Post by **EnglishSteel** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:50 pm

Gifed

Swete · Post by **Swete** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:36 pm

Gerhard von Liebau wrote:Just for the record...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146453&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123979&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112865&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46753&hilit=capwell+harness

Whoops.

Oh well. I hadn't run across them yet, so maybe I helped share the love with some others like myself.

Pitbull Armory · Post by **Pitbull Armory** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:14 pm

Swete thanks for posting, its not possible to see this suit of armor enough. Gerhard and ES, thank you for the links.

Have a good week

Pitbull

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:21 pm

Sad thing is it isn't black anymore. I heard the person who bought it had the finish removed and taken back to a bright polish. And then took it to South Africa where it will never again been seen in the European jousting community. Or so I heard.

veltez · Post by **veltez** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:33 pm

That is the definition of sexy.... *drool* It looks like hes wearing tungsten then way its both shiny and black/dark grey. Is that level of eveness hard to produce?

How historicly accurate is this kit?

Are there any extant examples or black and gold?

Ingelri · Post by **Ingelri** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:55 pm

Yes, I believe Tobias sold that harness some years back. It was originally made by Robert MacPherson I believe.

The last I saw Tobias was wearing a 15th century "hero" armour. There were pictures floating around at one point, but I'm not sure where.

Here's a link to a pic of his new armour:

http://tinyurl.com/bluuxsz

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:04 pm

veltez wrote:How historicly accurate is this kit?

This is a theoretical harness of English manufacture c. 1460, based on Tobias's personal research on the subject. There are no surviving English armors from this time period; only components and artwork, particularly effigial. I trust it's about as accurate an interpretation as you can get of a sort of harness which doesn't exist any more! The man has a Ph.D in the study of arms and armor.

-Gerhard

coreythompsonhm · Post by **coreythompsonhm** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:04 pm

Kel Rekuta wrote:Sad thing is it isn't black anymore. I heard the person who bought it had the finish removed and taken back to a bright polish. And then took it to South Africa where it will never again been seen in the European jousting community. Or so I heard.

zachos · Post by **zachos** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:54 am

I think that the armour is incredibly accurate except for the black finish which was achieved by a modern blackening process, the same way that guns are blackened. After heavy use the finish was no longer even, and pretty scratched up, which is probably why it's new owner had it taken back to bright polish. Toby also says that his more recent research has suggested that a mirror polish was one of the most expensive finishes on armour. Considering the black finish here was achieved after mirror polishing, it is unlikely it would be re-blacked, making the colouring one of the only inauthentic things about the harness.

His heroic armour is also an old one now. Most of it was made extremely quickly for a particular joust, so it's been gradually sold on as parts of his new harness have been finished:

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:10 am

That dude is a marvel.

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:13 am

I'm glad to see that he is still using some of the stuff I built. The helmet, crest, saddle and stirrups are all from the black armor.

Mac

Pitbull Armory · Post by **Pitbull Armory** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:23 am

That Helm crest is awesome Mac, Its a bird of preys foot yes? is it a solid piece of brass? And did you cast it or carve it?

Ty

Pb

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:43 am

Pitbull Armory wrote:That Helm crest is awesome Mac, Its a bird of preys foot yes? is it a solid piece of brass? And did you cast it or carve it?

Ty

Pb

Thank you, Andy! It is indeed a raptor's talon. (anyone caught referring to it as the "chicken foot" will receive a withering glance over the top of my glasses)

I worked it up out of (.062"?) sheet brass. It only weighs a few ounces. The plume tube has some twisted wire work and pearls.

Mac

zachos · Post by **zachos** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:39 am

@Mac. When I talked to Dr Capwell about helms, he had nothing except praise for the armet you made him. At the time you were not taking commissions due to ill health, but he said if you were then he would recommend you immediately.

Johann ColdIron · Post by **Johann ColdIron** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:42 am

zachos wrote: I Toby also says that his more recent research has suggested that a mirror polish was one of the most expensive finishes on armour.

Not surprising! Mirror polishing requires a great deal of labor in final planishing as well as the actual polishing.

AaronT · Post by **AaronT** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:47 pm

I like that black armour, it's awesome.

coreythompsonhm · Post by **coreythompsonhm** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:58 pm

Mac- thats one thing I had forgot to ask you when we were at Chris's shop. Do you still make armour on occasion for yourself?

Blaine de Navarre · Post by **Blaine de Navarre** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:59 pm

Gerhard von Liebau wrote:Just for the record...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=146453&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=123979&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112865&hilit=capwell+harness

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46753&hilit=capwell+harness

Really great armour is just like boobies - seeing them again never gets old.

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:03 pm

coreythompsonhm wrote:Mac- thats one thing I had forgot to ask you when we were at Chris's shop. Do you still make armour on occasion for yourself?

Corey,

I don't think I have made any armor for myself since about 1985.

Mac

LastKNIGHT · Post by **LastKNIGHT** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:07 pm

That is one sexy looking kit.

Ingelri · Post by **Ingelri** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:36 pm

Mac wrote:
coreythompsonhm wrote:Mac- thats one thing I had forgot to ask you when we were at Chris's shop. Do you still make armour on occasion for yourself?
Corey,

I don't think I have made any armor for myself since about 1985.

Mac

That seems to be the bane of a good armourer.

I recently retired the set of legs I've been using since 1994 after finally making myself new ones.

coreythompsonhm · Post by **coreythompsonhm** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:21 am

Ingelri wrote:
Mac wrote:
coreythompsonhm wrote:Mac- thats one thing I had forgot to ask you when we were at Chris's shop. Do you still make armour on occasion for yourself?
Corey,

I don't think I have made any armor for myself since about 1985.

Mac

That seems to be the bane of a good armourer.

I recently retired the set of legs I've been using since 1994 after finally making myself new ones.

wow

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:37 am

I'm still wearing the legs I made in 1988 for SCA and now I fight rebated steel exclusively. As soon as James Gillespie has a break restoring real armour, he promised to find time to make me some repro Milanese legs in mid-carbon steel. Until then, the old ones still work fine.

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