Essentials for 14th cent kit

Sigurd of Jorvik · Post by **Sigurd of Jorvik** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:33 pm

Ok: Awesome Klappvisor Bascinet with aventail: check
Steel legs, check
Wisby finger gauntlets: check

Need vambraces, rebraces, CoP, spaulders, shynbalds, gambeson

What else do I need to join La Cosa Nostra?

jester · Post by **jester** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:37 pm

Sigurd of Jorvik wrote:Ok: Awesome Klappvisor Bascinet with aventail: check
Steel legs, check
Wisby finger gauntlets: check

Need vambraces, rebraces, CoP, spaulders, shynbalds, gambeson

What else do I need to join La Cosa Nostra?

Style, baby. Style.

Amanda M · Post by **Amanda M** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:01 pm

Implements of destruction.

Thaddeus · Post by **Thaddeus** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:05 pm

An overwhelming desire to hit your opponent hard enough to make them blow snot bubbles.
The fortitude to stand and receive blows of equal force.
The ability to do both with style and grace.
And friends in livery is no bad thing.

Ken Mondschein · Post by **Ken Mondschein** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:53 pm

A horse.

wcallen · Post by **wcallen** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:54 am

Ken Mondschein wrote:A horse.

And retainers.
And "an income".

Sorry, had to continue the trend there.

Having one, I have to admit that a horse is a significant investment that most people will choose to delay. It really is part of the correct interpretation though.

Wade

Skutai · Post by **Skutai** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:57 am

I also recommend some semblance of physical fitness. Armor is heavy.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:49 am

If your asking bout armour...

i have a globose for sale.

If i can ever get a working KILN!!! And room to work i'll have spring steel stuff again!!!!

Galfrid atte grene · Post by **Galfrid atte grene** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:53 am

Hose. Mail shirt. Turnshoes.

Jan van Nyenrode · Post by **Jan van Nyenrode** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:21 am

Hi,

- The proper body shape (BMI of 20-22 helps

)
- Sense for the right aesthetics
- Proper shaping, sizing and general fit (goes together with the two above)

Cheers,

Jan

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:48 pm

Cotehardie for non-armour occasions.

Jan van Nyenrode · Post by **Jan van Nyenrode** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:00 pm

Oh yeah, the cotehardie remind me of this. Proper split hose. Too many people walk around with 13th century hose which together with the short 14th century style cotehardies result in the diaper look.

Cheers,

Jan

Skutai · Post by **Skutai** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:33 pm

Ick. Draw the line at 14c. armor, because the costume is totally absurd.

Amanda M · Post by **Amanda M** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:18 pm

No more absurd than any historical costume.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:25 pm

how is it absurd?

wcallen · Post by **wcallen** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Skutai wrote:Ick. Draw the line at 14c. armor, because the costume is totally absurd.

I always thought that late 14th c. costume was really cool. Close fitting, nice round body form, long enough to cover up your underwear....

Completely reasonable.

YMMV

Back to the original topic - find a painting or effigy you like. Then do what it shows.

Wade

Amanda M · Post by **Amanda M** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:12 pm

I think it's pretty classy myself!

Bo Harris · Post by **Bo Harris** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Oh yeah, the cotehardie remind me of this. Proper split hose. Too many people walk around with 13th century hose which together with the short 14th century style cotehardies result in the diaper look.

YES! Bothers me too for late 14th century portrayals.

I wear separate hose with a longer tunic or cotehardie for my mid-14th century outfit. Everything starts to get that fitted look but not yet shortened enough to show braies.

The problem when many people start researching the 14th century that it's 100 years long. You can't just wear a "14th Century" kit. The style should be cohesive.

juan · Post by **juan** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:32 pm

You might want to check out this thread: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=43175

Thomas MacFinn · Post by **Thomas MacFinn** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:52 pm

And this: http://www.cottesimple.com/martial_surc ... France.pdf

Paul the Small · Post by **Paul the Small** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:08 pm

Murdock wrote:If your asking bout armour...

i have a globose for sale.

If i can ever get a working KILN!!! And room to work i'll have spring steel stuff again!!!!

How big and how much? I need one that fits better.

Fearghus Macildubh · Post by **Fearghus Macildubh** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:51 pm

It does depend on when in the 14th century you are talking about. It seems to me that the 14C is when change begins to take on speed. As to silly fashions, I confess that I find 15C men's fashion pretty silly. But some people dig it.

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