Shady eBay Armourer.

Halfdan · Post by **Halfdan** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:10 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734117281

I find it disturbing that he's implying you can use this helm for SCA combat. The mail over the face of the helm is just plain goofy.

Pheylin Quinn · Post by **Pheylin Quinn** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:04 pm

This guy is smoking something.

Check out the clearance on this grill (can you say "broken face"):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=734613497

Barbute, not like one that I have seen. Crap, utter crap.

Pheylin Quinn · Post by **Pheylin Quinn** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:24 pm

OK, I was done until I saw this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=733443266

Did you now that the spangen was derived from the Roman bascinet?! Man, I learn something new every day.

Jeez, I do not need history books! All I have to do was go on E-bay!

I will probably be banned from E-bay for my comments to this clown, but it was worth it.

David deKunstenaar · Post by **David deKunstenaar** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:25 pm

That first one is the most retarded helm I have seen in a while.... "use the force Luke, use the force".

Arti

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:58 pm

The sad thing is that the items display a certain amount of skill in metal working... but the designs and inaccurate historical references are all SOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!

Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:07 am

My god, the pain... these should be posted on the armour board for laughs

-Donasian.

losthelm · Post by **losthelm** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:15 am

it still meats minamul thicknesses althought when paded you would have to be a midget with a small head to wear the thing

draenoor · Post by **draenoor** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:13 am

That spangenhelm looks alot like some of the other 16-18ga "sca legal" helms that sell every week on Ebay, as seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785300849
Chances are these are not high crafstmanship, but mass produced. And going from this guys great historical inaccuacies, it just makes it worse. Never in my most drunken stupor would I buy something offa ebay from someone with that bad of history knowledge. At least he got the "16 guage is thicker than 18guage" right. Partial credit

Lion du Fay · Post by **Lion du Fay** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:20 am

That is so sweet! I put in a bid!

horsefriend · Post by **horsefriend** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:53 am

WTF!?! this is , well, . . . uh.
I'm stunned, either by the "Sliders" quality "research", or simply by the sheer temerity of the guy.

Alail/Scott

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:50 am

Servus!

Although it's right up there with the "pigs in space" helmet, it does not say that the helm is combat legal only this:

This helmet comforms to the Society for Creative Anachronism's regulations for thickness.

I just wish that these knuckleheads would stop using the SCA as a selling point or measurment guage to peddle their unresearched wares.

(edited kuz Ah kant spel)

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Pax Vobiscum,

Herr Alexander

"So, there you have it, Clay. I think the real answer boils down to "Uhhh, I dunno." - from Maukaur - the greatest answer EVER given on the Archive.

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William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:15 am

You know I keep seeing posts about this Pig's In Space helmet... what the hell is it and where can I see a picture...

Pheylin Quinn · Post by **Pheylin Quinn** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:23 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Evil_Merlin:
You know I keep seeing posts about this Pig's In Space helmet... what the hell is it and where can I see a picture...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin, don't you DARE!

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:48 am

YES!

Do it!

I want to feel the true horror...

Sebastian K · Post by **Sebastian K** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:02 am

Here you go:

[img]http://www.sebastian-kempkens.de/pigsinspace.jpg[/img]

Sebastian

Kevin the Hound · Post by **Kevin the Hound** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:10 am

Thanks Sebastian!

See Pheylin, I'm innocent THIS time!

Kevin the Hound

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:29 am

I contest the classification of "pigs" when referring to the helmet whose photo is posted above. The pointed nose depicted in relief on the front "faceplate" is much more of a cat shape. Plus, the cat-like eyes do not say "pig." If anything, this is "Garfield's Diving Helmet." In the future, I hope you will see fit to refer to is as such!

Tim

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William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:45 am

I'm speechless... that is the most evil thing I have ever seen... Where did it come from?

Albrekt af Viborg · Post by **Albrekt af Viborg** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:57 am

An old episode of Lost in Space, I believe.

Galileo · Post by **Galileo** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:02 pm

Unfortunately, it was up on ebay, and someone actually bought it!

I think it should be entered in the "ugliest helm" contest on the armour design and construction board

G--

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:57 pm

What are those brass "things" on the bottom of the "helm".

gilbertdeschamps · Post by **gilbertdeschamps** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:00 pm

I too am speechless at that bascinet with the aventail that completely covers the face. Words fail me!

Gilbert

Ziad · Post by **Ziad** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:26 pm

Obviously somebody who couldn't tell the difference between a cervical collar and a cervical cap (the punch line of a blonde joke, btw). Cervelle, indeed.

Link! Link Hogthrob! Is it really you???

Z

Valstarr Hawkwind · Post by **Valstarr Hawkwind** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:24 pm

Properly done, one like Valconnan posted the pic of could be list legal.......

Valstarr (should I be ducking and running?)

Valstarr Hawkwind · Post by **Valstarr Hawkwind** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:30 pm

As to the one Halfdan posted the link to, do you get the impression of one wearing that at Agincourt lifting the maille enough to to ask, "Could you direct me to where the English longbowmen are shooting at?"

Although, if the reserve wasn't too low, you could cut the maille off, use it for something, and put....a BARGRILL on the front for a child's helm! Yea, that's it!

I still have a coif I bought a few years back off one of the Archive's old auctions that is WAY WAy Way to small for me or just about any adults..brass I think it's made of..need to find the thing sometime.

Valstarr

Valstarr Hawkwind · Post by **Valstarr Hawkwind** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:34 pm

One more myself, and I'll move on to another topic.. I must give the person credit for having a return policy and seems fairly up-front on the modern-day business side.

Valstarr

Marshal · Post by **Marshal** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:18 pm

Never have the words 'caveat emptor' been more condign...

Chuck Davis · Post by **Chuck Davis** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:35 pm

OH MY GOD! When faced with such stunning craftmanship and authenticity, I will now move to North Dakota and pump gas for the rest of my life!

Ya Right.....

-Cad

Skillet · Post by **Skillet** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:23 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by draenoor:
That spangenhelm looks alot like some of the other 16-18ga "sca legal" helms that sell every week on Ebay, as seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785300849
Chances are these are not high crafstmanship, but mass produced. And going from this guys great historical inaccuacies, it just makes it worse. Never in my most drunken stupor would I buy something offa ebay from someone with that bad of history knowledge. At least he got the "16 guage is thicker than 18guage" right. Partial credit

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In defence of Bruce, ie King'sLance. I must say firstly that , yes, I was stupid enough to buy one of his helms. Some of you may recal the pictures I posted on this board trying to unload, er share the wealth, as it were. His (King'sLance) problem is that his helms are made in India and there, apparantly, having your nose compressed to the point of necessitating surgical removal would actually add to the dinner table.

wheres the defence ?

oh yeah.

a. I got one of his "Roman Centurian" helms. In order to make it "try" to fit in the front I cut off the nasal, which was INSIDE the bargrill. ----- my kudos to the lad, as he paid for UPS to pick it up and refunded my dinero even before they sent it back his way.

b. I bought one of his brass accented leather breastplates, and since I dont consider leather shoestrings adequate strapping, I've been getting it into shape. They took a very thick piece of leather, wet formed it, then added a layer of suede thickness to it. Not bad at all (CONSIDERING IT'S FROM INDIA LIKE ALL HIS STUFF). dUNNO if it'll beat the body bracelt that I'm a waitin for from Thorfina and friends, but in a few months I should have it strapped and Duke Stephan here in Ardenroe should be able to bounce a couple of uncalled blows upon it lol

PSSSSSS Speaking of India -------- I just bought an imported hauberk form Mark CArraway (the dude on Ebay selling berks and coifs for $199 I explained that I didn't need the coif ( I have three plus an aventail) We arranged a lessor price for the shirt, and yes it hangs below my knee cops, and hell yeah I had to cut the stinkin full length sleeves off.

hell of a buy for 155 $

few bitches he quoted it as being 14 gauge / 3/8s tru 16 gauge closer to 7/16s. Hell it made it through last fighter practice, so it's still not a bad deal for a big ass hauberk. VERY shiny galvy. I fought in it with my 17 gauge blackened byrnie over it..... I blame my heavy heater for my lack of success. Not two layers of chainmail. OH and a dog ate my homework
I got my makita planer workin on myshield to take a few pounds off, not as we speak, but I'm thinking of it as we speak so sue me.

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Ideval · Post by **Ideval** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:30 am

We called those brass things "charms" in seventh-grade.

IdÃ«val

Auraillyana · Post by **Auraillyana** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:58 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lion du Fay:
That is so sweet! I put in a bid!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, Lion, you forgot to drop the Silly Stick...

Lion du Fay · Post by **Lion du Fay** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 8:16 pm

Um, Lion, you forgot to drop the Silly Stick...

Doh! I hope someone outbids me....

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:44 pm

Let me know what station you'll be working at...I'll stop by when I'm home for christmas.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Chuck Davis:
OH MY GOD! When faced with such stunning craftmanship and authenticity, I will now move to North Dakota and pump gas for the rest of my life!

Ya Right.....

-Cad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:46 pm

Oh...go to this guys site. He sells a 14 gauge STEEL shield.. "SCA READY". You must be 18 to purchase it.... aparently you can be too young to defend yourself.

Crystoll · Post by **Crystoll** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 4:22 pm

wtf?

http://www.a2armory.com/medbaswitplu.html