Valsgarde 6 top

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Mon May 05, 2003 1:57 pm

greets all

some of you may know that i am working on a new Valsgarde 6 helmet.

here are the very first pics i have of this project:

[img]http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/temp/hat/1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/temp/hat/2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/temp/hat/3.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/temp/hat/4.jpg[/img]

i am just about finished with the Mark 1 version and am just not happy with 'the look' so i was wondering if when i finished it up anyone would be interested in just the top?

i will clean it up a bit and rivet all the pieces in but i am biting at the bit to get started on the Mark 2 version so i am not looking to put alot m ore work into it (like adding the occular, check and back plates)

i really dont have any idea what it might be worth so i am entertaining offers

in case anyone is wondering the metal gauges are as follows

the browband is 14 ga
the neck to nape band (ie the crest) is 12 ga
the two side bands are also 12 ga
the small Y's and the star shapes are 14 ga
the big Y's are 12 ga

let me know if you are interested

btw some of the pieces appear crooked in the photos, this is mainly due to the bolts i have holding it together so far being smaller that the holes punched, so the pieces have a bit of play in them when assembled this way, the proper rivits should correct this

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HÃ¡lvgrÃmr AÃ°Ã¡lraÃ°arson

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sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:02 pm

yes... I would be...

drop me a line with details

Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Mon May 05, 2003 5:31 pm

Me too.

SilverGriffon · Post by **SilverGriffon** » Mon May 05, 2003 7:52 pm

Id be interested but wouldnt want it riveted, Id want to rivet it myself

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Tue May 06, 2003 8:20 am

sarnac has first dibs (i am waiting to hear back from him on something) but what do you all think its worth?

riveted?

not riveted?

H

Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Tue May 06, 2003 12:25 pm

Are you going to "SCAify" it? How about just the templates?

Prince Of Darkmoor · Post by **Prince Of Darkmoor** » Tue May 06, 2003 12:52 pm

Very nice work. I'm jealous

I don't know how easy it was for you to cut out all those small pieces and fit them into the helm, but I wouldn't price the helm top for anything under $100 because of the work involved in putting it all together.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Tue May 06, 2003 1:44 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Raibeart Lok De la Haye:
Are you going to "SCAify" it? How about just the templates? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

--well i have plates i got from Raymonds Quite Press for this but that would drive the price up as they dont come cheap

for those wondering i have the following plates from Raymonds (which can be seen here http://www.nmia.com/~rqpltd/Helm_Plaques.html) :

1 PV03 ($7 each)
1 PV05 ($7 each)
1 PV08 ($7 each)
1 PV09 ($6 each)
1 PV10 ($7 each)
1 PV02 ($7 each)
1 PV04 ($7 each)
3 PV07 ($5 each)

from what i can tell in my research the only plaque he sells that would be right for the V6 helm would be the PV17.

the pressblechs on the browband, neck to nape band, the side bands and the ocular are very similar to it, but as far as i can tell no pressblechs with the 'man images' were on this helm

Halvgrimr

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Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Thu May 08, 2003 12:39 pm

Try again friend. Dead link

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Thu May 08, 2003 12:45 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Raibeart Lok De la Haye:
Try again friend. Dead link<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

--ops try http://www.nmia.com/~rqpltd/Helm_Plaques.html

H

Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Thu May 08, 2003 3:39 pm

Nice.

BTW I have yer blade done. Looking for suitable handle material. Will be back at my smithy in a few days, I'll mail you persoanally then. Thanks again for the burn off.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:50 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Raibeart Lok De la Haye:
Nice.

BTW I have yer blade done. Looking for suitable handle material. Will be back at my smithy in a few days, I'll mail you persoanally then. Thanks again for the burn off.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

--kewl
no hurry
and no problem about the disks
glad to help ya out

H

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Thu May 08, 2003 3:51 pm

since no one has gotten back to me should i assume that no one is interested in this?

its cool if no one is, i just need to know so i can offer it to some other boards

H

Tarquin Bjornsson · Post by **Tarquin Bjornsson** » Thu May 08, 2003 5:29 pm

i would sooner get patterns if you were willing to share them

Garreth · Post by **Garreth** » Thu May 08, 2003 8:23 pm

Halvgrim,
I was wondering if you could scan your pattern for me? I would like to compare it to mine and I am curious to see how close our interpretations are. If no one else wants the top, I might take it, unrivited, if you will dish the remaining parts.
What changes are you making on the mark 2? To my eye, the only thing that is off is the width of your bands. Mine are 1.5 " wide, yours look a bit wider. Of course, this is all artistic interpretation based on the picture from the Tweadle book!

Garreth

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Fri May 09, 2003 7:34 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tarquin Bjornsson:
i would sooner get patterns if you were willing to share them<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

though i would be up for selling the pattern, i cant yet

a master armorer helped me design them so i dont want to step on his toes, so i will talk with him about it first

H

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Fri May 09, 2003 7:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Garreth:
Halvgrim,
I was wondering if you could scan your pattern for me? I would like to compare it to mine and I am curious to see how close our interpretations are. If no one else wants the top, I might take it, unrivited, if you will dish the remaining parts.
What changes are you making on the mark 2? To my eye, the only thing that is off is the width of your bands. Mine are 1.5 " wide, yours look a bit wider. Of course, this is all artistic interpretation based on the picture from the Tweadle book!

Garreth<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

again, i need to consult with Master Trsitram about the pattern issue

and yes its the band width (and the use of 12ga on some parts) that make me personally unhappy with this version, the next version will be all 14 ga with 12 Y's (the bigs ones) and narrower bands.

it is a very solid helmet but by the time i add all the extras i want ('period liner, plaques, custom cast crest/eyebrows/occulars, custom bargrill, hidden checkplates/backplate, and a Forth camail) it would be ungodly heavy IMO.

dont get me wrong, it will make a fine base helmet but this isnt a helm you want to start adding all the "extra's" to!

though the Tweedle book does give some info on this helm, most of my info comes from the Valsgarde 6 site report, its a wonderful thing to own

Halvgrimr

H

Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Fri May 09, 2003 11:54 am

I'd be willing to buy a pattern. As soon as your Master Okay's it, e-mail me a price.

thanks

SterlingtheSilver · Post by **SterlingtheSilver** » Fri May 09, 2003 1:49 pm

I would be interested in a completed pattern as well once you have made sure its ok. Email me if it becomes available please.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Fri May 09, 2003 1:52 pm

i have spoken with Master Tristram and as soon as i can get to the shop and scan the pattern it will be available via the pattern section of the Archive.

that may not be until next week but i will let yall know via the Armor board when it is available

Halvgrimr

Eric Bjornsson · Post by **Eric Bjornsson** » Fri May 09, 2003 2:16 pm

Halvgrimr,

Thanks for putting the pattern online. My friend and I were just discussing the merits of doing this one versus a modified Ultuna just before you made you initial post.

You mention another source that you used to get the pattern other than Tweedle. Where might I be able to get this information?

Eric Bjornsson

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Fri May 09, 2003 2:22 pm

here is the book to seek out (its the site report):

Title - ValsgÃ¤rde 6
Author - Arwidsson, Greta, 1906-

Published - Uppsala och Stockholm, Almqvist & Wiksells boktryckeri a.-b.; [etc., etc., 1942]

Description - 151, [1] p., illus., plates (part col. mounted) maps, fold. plans, diagrs. 31 x 24 cm

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Eric Bjornsson · Post by **Eric Bjornsson** » Fri May 09, 2003 5:14 pm

Where was the site report purchased?

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Mon May 12, 2003 8:29 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Eric Bjornsson:
Where was the site report purchased?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i have seen them for sale on places like abebooks.com and a few other oop book services but i work for a university that has an emphasis on archeaology, as a result i have access to an amazing library full of hard to get/find books on what seems like an almost never ending number of topics.

Halvgrimr

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon May 12, 2003 9:00 am

I have seen Halvgrimr's helm, and I can say it is COOL! whoever buys it should promise to put pictures up when it's done.

Aylwin

Deykin ap Gwion · Post by **Deykin ap Gwion** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:08 pm

Halvgrim wrote:i have spoken with Master Tristram and as soon as i can get to the shop and scan the pattern it will be available via the pattern section of the Archive.

that may not be until next week but i will let yall know via the Armor board when it is available

Halvgrimr

Is the pattern posted yet? If so, I couldn't find it?

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:45 am

pics won't load for me. any chance of forwarding them to me?

Sigeric · Post by **Sigeric** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:43 am

...deleted text, due to not looking at the original thread date... sorry about that.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:30 pm

Since this thread was from May of 2003 I will have to search for the pics.
I dont think I ever got to posting the patterns.

I will look for both and update this thread when I find them

Halv

Mord · Post by **Mord** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:02 pm

Halvgrim wrote:here is the book to seek out (its the site report):

Title - ValsgÃ¤Â²Â¤e 6
Author - Arwidsson, Greta, 1906-

Published - Uppsala och Stockholm, Almqvist & Wiksells boktryckeri a.-b.; [etc., etc., 1942]

Description - 151, [1] p., illus., plates (part col. mounted) maps, fold. plans, diagrs. 31 x 24 cm

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First off, Halvgrimr, your photos didn't post here. I would be very much interested in seeing them.

Second. I have a zerox copy of Valsgarde 6. Drop me a line (privately) and I'll mail you a copy. Just keep reminding me to do so.

Mord.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:13 pm

This post is from last year fellas!
I killed the pics since then.

Mord, I have a complete scanned copy of the V6 book (and the V7 and V8 book too)
And almost every thing listed here http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/pubs_i_have.htm

Thanks thought!

Halv

Mord · Post by **Mord** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:56 pm

Halvgrim wrote:This post is from last year fellas!
I killed the pics since then.

Mord, I have a complete scanned copy of the V6 book (and the V7 and V8 book too)
And almost every thing listed here http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/pubs_i_have.htm

Thanks thought!

Halv

Okay, cool.

Mord.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:13 am

I hate to bring this thread back up from the archives but i desperately need the pics of this hat and dont seem to have them saved anywhere.

Anyone have them on their harddrive?

Halv

Kían · Post by **Kían** » Wed May 18, 2005 1:48 pm

Halv,

I'm a bit confused.... what exactly do you need? I've got a scanned copy of Valsgarde 6 if that's what you're after. Let me know if it's something else and I'll see what's lurking on my hard drive.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:39 pm

KÃƒÂan wrote:Halv,

I'm a bit confused.... what exactly do you need? I've got a scanned copy of Valsgarde 6 if that's what you're after. Let me know if it's something else and I'll see what's lurking on my hard drive.

Hey Kian

I built a Vals6 repro sometime ago (well I helped build is more accurate) and posted some pics in this thread.

I have since removed the pics from where they were and lost the originals.

I am hoping someone saved them as armour porn and can send me copies.

Halv
who has the Vals 6, 7, and 8 books;)