Real sliding rivets
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Real sliding rivets
In order not to hijack another, related thread, I have decided to start one that pools photos of real examples. I am sure Wade has plenty to contribute.
I have, where possible, photographed BOTH ends of the slots. I am sad to say I have only started doing that in earnest with the pieces I have on hand, and have not made it a practice to do so through the years and the many pieces I've worked on. The first several are from a 'Maximilian' tournament pauldron, a rather rare item. It's the first I've had my hands on, anyway.
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Re: Real sliding rivets
Do you know if those washers are original? I have never seen armour washers shaped like that.
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Re: Real sliding rivets
Alas, all the rivets were replaced. Here's an exterior shot showing three slots at once, as it is where the top arm lame meets the main pauldron lame (the pauldron's arm lames overlap upwards).
Also shots of the slider on a 'Maximilian' breastplate gusset.
Also shots of the slider on a 'Maximilian' breastplate gusset.
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Re: Real sliding rivets
And I can take this one apart:
http://www.allenantiques.com/A-47.html
And that piece in motion:
http://www.allenantiques.com/movies/Gau ... vement.mp4

Wade
http://www.allenantiques.com/A-47.html
And that piece in motion:
http://www.allenantiques.com/movies/Gau ... vement.mp4

Wade
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Re: Real sliding rivets
Thanks, Wade! It is interesting to look at the marks at the tops of the sliders; you can get a pretty good of the size of the cutting chisels. Some are rounded at the resting end, some more square. Here's an example that does not, for the most part, fulfill my expectations. It is from an anime, and the slots and rivets are larger than most that I see, hence the scale in one of the photos. These are working life rivets and washers. I know this because it was freed from a Turkish prison.
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Re: Real sliding rivets
Nice thread, thanks guys!
I've often wondered if anyone has played around with punching authentically. What would such a punch look like? What would they have punched it into? It seems to me that it's way too clean to have been just put over a pritchel (or similar, I know their anvils didn't have pritchels). And they would pretty much have to have punched them after all forming (maybe before finishing).
This is particularly interesting:

Two things going on here that pique my interest....
First, what the heck are those rivets in the fluting? The one on the outside is obviously a strap rivet but the ones by the fluting are just seemingly random rivets. Initially I would have thought they were construction rivets, to keep the piece together while doing rough forming of the whole piece, but there's no corresponding hole on the inside.
Second (and back OT), this seems to corroborate the idea that these punches would have had to leave pretty clean edges, because otherwise the decoration would have gotten botched.
I've often wondered if anyone has played around with punching authentically. What would such a punch look like? What would they have punched it into? It seems to me that it's way too clean to have been just put over a pritchel (or similar, I know their anvils didn't have pritchels). And they would pretty much have to have punched them after all forming (maybe before finishing).
This is particularly interesting:

Two things going on here that pique my interest....
First, what the heck are those rivets in the fluting? The one on the outside is obviously a strap rivet but the ones by the fluting are just seemingly random rivets. Initially I would have thought they were construction rivets, to keep the piece together while doing rough forming of the whole piece, but there's no corresponding hole on the inside.
Second (and back OT), this seems to corroborate the idea that these punches would have had to leave pretty clean edges, because otherwise the decoration would have gotten botched.
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