The Wisby experiment

Signo · Post by **Signo** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:43 pm

Well finally i can show you this.. I'm not fully satisfied.. and you will see why.
The pattern is from the archive (master Cad) i found it very useful and well done. Sadly after the first unsuccesful trial i had to trim some pieces to keep it work without redo all the stuff from scratch.
This is what i've made.. into the cuff there are some plates but only on the external side and on the top.

http://www.flosferri.it/GUANTO_max.htm

Click the links and tell .. they are crappy compared to some other example i've seen before

Gaston de Clermont · Post by **Gaston de Clermont** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:00 pm

Signo,
Don't be so hard on yourself. They look a fair bit like I imagine the originals did. I'm sure you learned a lot doing them, and you know more of what to improve on in your next attempt. My first swing at pretty much everything looks like complete crap compared to what you made.
Have you seen the images of the original gauntlets from the Wisby book? There are straight on and side on views of pretty much all the plates in all the gauntlets. They might give you a better idea of how deep the plates were dished. Plus you can size up the images with a photocopier and make your own patterns.
Gaston

Erik Schmidt · Post by **Erik Schmidt** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:25 pm

Hi Signo,
I would be pleased with making such a nice set, especially first time around. I'm sure you can see errors that we can't, but if they are comfortable to wear, then you have succeeded.

One day I will hopefully also get the time to make some gauntlets. I saved your photos for when I do. They will make good reference material.

Erik

Hugo de Stonham · Post by **Hugo de Stonham** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:09 pm

I wonder if those are SCA legal?

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:07 pm

No, they are not SCA legal, as hitting the fingers would direct the blow to, well your fingers...

The rules state (for the East Kingdom anyways): A gauntlet made of rigid plates, either lined with padding or closed cell foam, or designed to transfer potentially injurous impact to the surfaces being grasped.

Old_bear · Post by **Old_bear** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:46 pm

Signo,
For a first pair, they seemed to have turned quite well. Overall your treatment and techniques look consistant and they look like a matched pair! I know for us, that was always a challange in the early days. As you get used to looking at the original examples and do further work, you will see the things to change and improve on.
In regards to SCA legal, I'd be worried about the wrist along with the fingers. It looks like the wrist is not protected by any plates by a good 1/2" to 3/4" - good flex but little protection. The fingers would be solved by adding gadlings over the knuckles.
(If you aren't doing SCA combat then you don't have to worry about any of this)
If you've got any questions on specifics, please ask.

Keep up the good work! And definately have fun with it. And keep posting pictures! Thanks,

Aaron / Valerius

Signo · Post by **Signo** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:42 am

Thank you all for the kind words! They make me really happy!
Those gauntlet are not for SCA, but for rebated steel that we do. (Only very light touch permitted)
The wrist as you say is not protected by plates, but the leather you see there came from a sturdy pair of boots.. and is very strong.. i hope it will became softer with use.
Thank you again! :lol:

Kenwrec Wulfe · Post by **Kenwrec Wulfe** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:50 am

For SCA use, at least in the Middle, I believe that you would also need to add some sort of padding under the metal. If I remember the rules correctly from the last time I read them (a few weeks ago) and they have not changed (again), it is required that you have hard over soft for finger/hand/wrist proctection.