early 15th century garb

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:19 am

Hi all,

I am just trying to ascertain a few things about 15th century garb. Now when I say 15th century I mean around 1400.

http://www.thearma.org/arttalk/at54.htm

Here is a picture of the armoured (hard?) kit I am going for, which I think the general consensus of people consider to be dated close to 1400. SO if you think you have anything garb wise, for a male, in a link or picture could you please show me.

I am also interested in colours that were used and am curious to know if suade would be a suitable material. I also believe furs were used as trim (cuffing etc) - if so what sort of animal furs were they?

My partner is so kindly making the garb for me (isnt she sweet) and I think she wants to go more nobility in appearance than commoner but whatever it will prob come down to my own preference. I have made the acceptance that I could end up wearing some tights though... <mumble>

Thanks,
Wyrm.

Karen Larsdatter · Post by **Karen Larsdatter** » Tue May 04, 2004 7:23 am

Wyrmspleen wrote:SO if you think you have anything garb wise, for a male, in a link or picture could you please show me.

Best link I can point you at is From the Skin Out... Or Oh, my God, its 1403 and I have nothing to wear!

Wyrmspleen wrote:I am also interested in colours that were used and am curious to know if suade would be a suitable material. I also believe furs were used as trim (cuffing etc) - if so what sort of animal furs were they?

The webpage above will help with colors, though many of the depictions of white garments come from manuscripts illustrated in semi-grisaille (where people are drawn in contemporary clothing, with realistic flesh tones on their hands, faces, etc., but the clothing is drawn only in white and grey). So -- it's not meant to indicate that white outerwear was that fashionable in the 15th century, only that depictions of such are an artistic convention of the time.

I'm not sure where you plan to use suede, but other than perhaps a pouch or purse, it's not terribly suitable for clothing or accessories for the early 15th century. Fur was used to trim and line men's houppelandes; these generally seem to be lighter-colored furs.

Wyrmspleen wrote:I have made the acceptance that I could end up wearing some tights though... <mumble>

It's not really "tights" so much as either braies & chausses or joined hose.

JJ Shred · Post by **JJ Shred** » Tue May 04, 2004 6:11 pm

I am also interested in colours that were used and am curious to know if suade would be a suitable material.

Unlikely. The device for splitting whole hides into suede wasn't made until the 17th or 18th century.

Charlotte J · Post by **Charlotte J** » Tue May 04, 2004 6:32 pm

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Tue May 04, 2004 8:10 pm

Is it just me? I only get:

"Ce document n'est pas accessible sur Gallica pour des raisons techniques ou juridiques. " :sad:

Pad

Charlotte J · Post by **Charlotte J** » Tue May 04, 2004 10:45 pm

Eh. Crap. Seems they've renamed everything.

So, go to (in case they change things again):
http://gallica.bnf.fr
Click on:

Or go to:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/themes/ImaMA2.htm

Specifically, you want:
Boccace, Des claires et nobles femmes - FranÃƒÂ§ais 598
Grandes Chroniques de France - FranÃƒÂ§ais 73
Guiard des Moulins, Bible historiale - FranÃƒÂ§ais 3
Guiard des Moulins, Bible historiale - FranÃƒÂ§ais 4
Guiard des Moulins, Bible historiale - FranÃƒÂ§ais 9
Guiard des Moulins, Bible historiale - FranÃƒÂ§ais 10
Tristan de LÃƒÂ©onois - FranÃƒÂ§ais 97
Tristan de LÃƒÂ©onois - FranÃƒÂ§ais 100
Tristan de LÃƒÂ©onois - FranÃƒÂ§ais 101

Some of the other manuscripts are probably good, but those are specifically the ones I've pulled images from for women's wear of the early 15th century. Eventually, you look at enough images, and you'll be able to date something pretty decently just by looking at the style of painting and clothing.

Enjoy! Give yourself some time - the Gallica site is wonderful.

-Charlotte

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:26 am

Thankyou Karen, that website is great!

..and HOLY BEEFJERKY Charlotte! - theres got to be hundreds of images there!!!! :shock:

I'm suffering from information overload

Thanks guys

Wyrm.

Charlotte J · Post by **Charlotte J** » Wed May 05, 2004 9:04 am

Wyrmspleen wrote:..and HOLY BEEFJERKY Charlotte! - theres got to be hundreds of images there!!!! I'm suffering from information overload

I think that website kept me busy for about a week of unemployment. :lol:

-Charlotte

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