"Pourpoint to suspend leg harness" question - X po

Black Swan Designs · Post by **Black Swan Designs** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:03 am

How do those of you who use a pourpoint to suspend your leg harness suspend your arm harness? Does your arm harness hang from the pourpoint? From the body armour?

Thanks-

Gwen
Black Swan Designs

Patton Lives · Post by **Patton Lives** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:26 pm

That I know of, the majority of people that use the pourpoint for legs, wear the pourpoint under a gambeson, that they point thier arms to. Thats what I would do if I had a pourpoint.

Alienor · Post by **Alienor** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:03 pm

I wear a pourpoint of the Charles-de-Blois type, to which I point my arms. My current legs are suspended from a belt.

When my new spring steel legs are done, I'm going to try pointing them to a garment, though....

Alienor
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Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:48 pm

It depends on how you define "pourpoint". I've worn the lightly padded sleeved garment. With that, the leg harness points high on the skirt near the waist, and there are points at the top of the spaulders and both junctions of the cannons and the coulters. I don't think a pair of points near the wrist would be amiss, if for no other reason than to keep the lower cannons from swallowing the cuffs and letting the wrists get abraded.

Edited to add: Considering where this is posted, I should mention that I do not have any solid evidence that my method is historic.

William Campion · Post by **William Campion** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:47 am

Gwen,
I have been using a separate pourpointe for almost 4 years now and am on my 3rd version of it. Over this, I wear my gambason/arming cote and I point my arm and shoulder harness to this outer cote. In reviewing some of the burgundian ordinances (so reference not handy at the moment), I came across a passage specifically instructing the soldiers should point thier hose to a pourpointe and that thier jack (i beilieve) should be worn over this so that it should float freely.
I have found a pourpointe to be a wonderful way to susspend my leg harness (my arming belt was forever falling down). My next project is to make a linen "cote of 7 layers" that is called for (in another Burgundian ordinance) to be worn beneath a brigandine. I wonder if hose of a similar nature would be sufficient to point floating "archer knees" as is frequently illustrated in the Froisart chronicals?