SCA Marshal's Tool?

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:19 am

Anyone have a website that sells a SCA marshal's tool?

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:24 am

http://windrosearmoury.com/in_stock.htm

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:29 am

Thats one. But do you have one of the "L" shaped ones? The one that has the 1" aluminum dowel screwed into it?

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:39 am

InsaneIrish wrote:Thats one. But do you have one of the "L" shaped ones? The one that has the 1" aluminum dowel screwed into it?

Actually, that's not me - I just had the link bookmarked. I have one of the kind you're describing (at least I think it's the same) and if I can remember who I bought it from (got it at Pennsic), I'll post that here.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:41 am

I thought it was mandrake, but he doesn't have any on his site and I couldn't find his brother's (glendaur) site

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:48 am

InsaneIrish wrote:I thought it was mandrake, but he doesn't have any on his site and I couldn't find his brother's (glendaur) site

I got it from the same fellow who sells a really groovy mace head kit, as well as bill hook heads and spear-grabby things (scorpion? heads) to attach behind your spearhead, but I'm pulling a complete blank on the name.

I think it was "By My Hand"?

bkillian · Post by **bkillian** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:01 pm

I would skip ordering a " Marshall's gauge" and run down to the local home despot and pick up a set of vernier calipers for around 6 bucks. . Its a lot harder to argue with a caliper than with a gauge.
Bryan

Owen · Post by **Owen** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:59 pm

Except I wouldn't trust most folks to read one right. They are also rather more delicate than a Marshal's Gauge.

Apollonian · Post by **Apollonian** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:46 am

I agree with Brian that the caliper encourages a better belief in accuracy. I agree with Owen that the caliper is more delicate, also, making it less appropriate for mass authorizations.

I prefer a gauge. By far, the most convenient gauge I have used is the milled aluminum gauges from Windrose. The thrusting tip slots allow a marshal to quickly test two-hand and spear thrusters, as well as all of our other SCA schema. They are also not welded posts on a rod welded together by someone.

Falcone

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:53 am

Apollonian wrote:I agree with Brian that the caliper encourages a better belief in accuracy. I agree with Owen that the caliper is more delicate, also, making it less appropriate for mass authorizations.

I prefer a gauge. By far, the most convenient gauge I have used is the milled aluminum gauges from Windrose. The thrusting tip slots allow a marshal to quickly test two-hand and spear thrusters, as well as all of our other SCA schema. They are also not welded posts on a rod welded together by someone.

Falcone

What about having a caliper available as a backup to measure the gauge and/or whatever is questionable, if there is someone who questions a ruling? Just a thought.

Apollonian · Post by **Apollonian** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:41 am

Actually, I think it is a little unreasonable to ask a marshal to measure something down to the 64th or even the 32nd. Sheet metal thickness is even worse.

Still, marshals are fallable. Well manufactured tools like these help to standardize the marshal's response to combatants, as well as increase the marshal's accuracy by eliminating some of the human error. The guage must be as accurate as possible and easy to use. That is why I went for the milled aluminum gauge at Windrose.

Remember, in Atlantia anyway, a field marshal's opinion is subject to appeal to the MIC, and on up to the king.

Falcone

Johann ColdIron · Post by **Johann ColdIron** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:37 pm

Falcone is right on the money. You want it as simple as possible.
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I love my calipers in my shop. Calipers are great for measuring two dimensional things. What we measure on the field is inherently difficult. Complex curves of a bargrill can be tricky to read even with a simple tool.

You take a set of calipers with their knife edge tips and turn them even slightly as you measure someones helmet and you will come up with false readings.

Nevermind about thin pointy objects near peoples faces with all sorts of jostling going on... IE Marshals point

What ever you use just make sure it is accurate!

I have one of the CAD drawn, Milled pieces from Windrose. I did check it with my calipers when I got home and it specs out really well.

IIIRC they were only $15 or so. Mine rides in my armor bag and if there are ever questions about one of our guys gear it is there to put them to rest.

Now if we could only quantify what padding compression should test out to

justmagnus · Post by **justmagnus** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:47 am

tlast wrote: head kit, as well as bill hook heads and spear-grabby things (scorpion? heads) to attach behind your spearhead, but I'm pulling a complete blank on the name.

I think it was "By My Hand"?

That would be our very own Capt. Jamie at By My Hand Designs. Here is the link to his site from his profile.

http://www.bymyhanddesigns.com

It looks like it is down right now but try later.

Rob

gargoyle · Post by **gargoyle** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:40 pm

I've got two styles I make. The combat archery style and what I call the combined arms gage (CA and heavy) They are pictured below. $15 for the combat archery. $18 for the combined arms. A buck for shipping. I get off active duty in about a week or so and will be able to produce some then.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/alastaird ... pg&.src=ph

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/alastaird ... pg&.src=ph

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/alastaird ... pg&.src=ph