Bascinet Faceplate help

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 7:37 pm

Fine, they hijacked my bascinet thread to talk about corrazina's...

So, I've looked a bit and think I like the "globose" type faceplate on the white mountain armoury bascinet. I'm thinking I'd want breathes though, and perhaps lots of them. Would that be appropriate for that type of helm?

Thanks for any help!

muttman · Post by **muttman** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 9:22 pm

I want one of those too, to go with my corazina. And speaking of corazinas,....

Actualy I really do want one of those, but I don`t think lots of breath holes would look right or be period on one. Someone who knows more on the subject can probably answer that one better.
John

Gundo · Post by **Gundo** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:12 pm

I usually put a 'sunburst' of holes in those, on the 'off' side.

It looks right to me that way, like I'm remembering some authentic piece...but I can't back it up with a cite off the top of my head.

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Edric · Post by **Edric** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:40 pm

Just commissioned one of these just the other day. Got it from a book that had illustrations taken from illuminations.

[img]http://www.edricsrose.com/helm1.jpg[/img]

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Erik Schmidt · Post by **Erik Schmidt** » Thu Jan 31, 2002 4:32 am

The picture supplied by Edric is of a late 14th early 15th century example, whereas the model produced by white mountain would be from around the 3rd quater of the 14th.
It is difficult to tell the number of breaths from most of the period illustrations of the earlier visors, but the starbursts do seem common.
I have seen one extant example of a klappenvisor similar to the one by white mountain, and it has 12-14 breaths loosely arranged in rows like on many houndskulls.
Very importantly, the breaths are only on the right side.

Erik

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Jan 31, 2002 1:08 pm

I took my visor from Waldryk and finished it up. Then I took 2 bolts, a ruler and a scratch awl to it. I took the 8 drilled holes and the center one and make it into a "Iron Cross" style. Perhaps it's not quite authentic with the large pierce work, but the visor sits out too far to see well.

Arland

Edric · Post by **Edric** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 10:01 am

white mountain armoury · Mon Feb 04, 2002 11:55 am

i think breaths arranged in a more linear fashion as opposed to a "starburst" pattern would look fine.
I arrange my breaths on graph paper first, then i punch the breaths in the paper and lay it over the visor and fill in the dots with a marker, if everything looks fine i make the holes, try diff patterns with a marker first, marker cleans up easily as opposed to holes