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Secretum Philosophorum-Availability?

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Hi There-looking for the above book.I have found only 2 sources thus far,and one of them is only an article referencing it and it will be in a book (Magic and the Classical Tradition) that has not been published yet.The other is the book itself (at Cambridge) but the fellow that takes care of the books is busy,working alone,and is not sure when he will be getting around to the translating/publishing/binding of that particular volume.
Alll that being said,it would be swell to find a translation of the Secretum Philosophorum.Any ideas?
Thank You For Your Time,
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You might enjoy this article I found using Gale's Student Resource Center:

Title: The rhetoric of riddling in late-medieval England: the 'Oxford' riddles, the 'Secretum philosophorum,' and the riddles in 'Piers Plowman.'
Journal: Speculum: A Journal of Medieval Studies, Jan 1995, v70, n1, p68(38)
Author: Galloway, Andrew
Topical term: Riddles -- Analysis -- Literature -- Middle Ages

ISSN: 0038-7134
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Summary: The medieval English treatise 'Secretum philosophorum,' a collection of riddles that includes riddles of medieval manuscripts, such as Harley 3362, talks about experiments with language, ideas of deceptions and liberal arts. Study of riddles was not considered as a main subject in the intellectual circles of the medieval period but the study was prevalent among the clerical readers and the riddles in the 'Secretum philosophorum' have connections with the works of the Oxford scholars. The argument that the riddles presented veiled political and social meanings is justified by Langland's 'Piers Plowman,' in which the author turns away from a traditional Latin way of treatment of riddles in the B text to a more vernacular treatment in the C text, reflecting the changing political scenes.

I found this through the beauty of federated searching...if I had to pick one place for this kind of information I would have guessed EBSCO Academic Search, but by searching several databases at once I found this in literaly one of the last places I would have thought to look.
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I found a book that claims to have a chapter on it:

http://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-01862-3.html

Conjuring Spirits: Texts and Traditions of Late Medieval Ritual Magic


That, the article Maelgwyn found and the upcoming Goulding article seem to be just about it for English resources. You could always teach yourself medieval Latin *g*
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Thanks folks,I appreciate the help.It strikes me as a fascinating subject.
As for latin-thanks but no thanks :P
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