Corby de la Flamme wrote:LrdSedricW wrote:What about the wrist and heel of the palm?
Will it pass a Midrealm armour inspection?
The appropriate SCA rule:
5.The outer surfaces of the hand and wrist of both arms must be covered by one or a combination of the following:
5.c. A gauntlet of heavy leather lined with closed cell foam or heavy padding. (Note: A hockey
glove is considered to be the equivalent, but looks blatantly modern, and their use is discouraged.)
Note that it says "Outer surfaces". That sounds like the
outside of the wrist, not the inside. The outside is covered by the shield.
1. I suppose you could add a bit of leather for the inside of the wrist. I can't imagine any marshal failing a gauntlet because the heel of the palm isn't covered with rigid leather. Generally, the bones of the hand are on the other side next to the shield.
2. Ask a midrealm marshal. The only Atlantian marshal who inspected it thought it was cool. I think that's the word Bryce used.
Im the Knight Marshal for my local group, and if I would inspect that I could not pass that to be used becouse of not adequet enough protection for the wrist. The following is straight from the Marshals handbook. Here in Artemisia we use just the standard Society Rules with little modification.
4. Hand and Wrist Armor
a. The outer surfaces of the hand and wrist of both arms must be covered by one or a
combination of the following:
§ A metal basket hilt with enough bars or plates to prevent a blow from striking
the fingers or the back of the hand. If a basket hilt is used, a vambrace or halfgauntlet
shall cover the remaining portions of the hand and wrist.
§ A gauntlet made of rigid plates, either lined with padding or foam, or designed
to transfer potentially injurious impact to the surfaces being grasped. (Note:
Finger gauntlets with plates covering individual fingers but not forming an
arch over the finger, are not adequate.)
§ A gauntlet of heavy leather lined with at least ¼" (6 mm) of closed cell foam.
Ice hockey or lacrosse gloves with reinforcement on the fingertips are
acceptable but effort should be made to disguise them.
§ A shield with proper hand protection for the fingers and thumb.
7. Shields
a. Shields shall be constructed of materials equivalent or superior to ½" (13 mm)
plywood in terms of strength.
b. Shields shall be edged with leather, rubber hose or other padding in such a way
as to minimize the damage to rattan weapons.
c. No bolts, wires or other objects may project more than 3/8" (9 mm) from any part
of a shield without being padded. Round shield bosses are not included in this
category.
d. The hand and wrist must be adequately protected behind the shield. This is
usually accomplished by a shield basket, gauntlet or similar protection. A
minimum of heavy leather with ¼" (6 mm) closed cell foam is required.
e. If a shield is to be used as a weapon, particular attention must be paid to keeping
it light enough that it will not injure someone who is struck with it. It must meet
the requirements of both mass weapons and shields and approved by the Earl
Marshal or designated warranted marshal.
The mileage in your Kingdom may differ.
Max
PS: with the way the handlays on the shield if you were olny to cover the oustside of the hand and wrist, it is kind of redundand and leave the inside of the hand and wrist exposed to getting hit since the hand doesnt move lit it would with a sword. Hope that makes sense.
