Greetings,
while digging myself through the massed amounts of threads somehow related to this topic, I was somewhat annoyed by the fact that all those interesting links and resources given were spread out pretty far.
Therefore I've decided to start a little collection of primary sources on gambeson, aketon, padded coif, splandenier and whatever.
I'd greatly appreciate the help of those with the links already in their archives and the adequate books in their closet...
If the source is to be found in a book, please add author and title.
btw, if there exists anything like this anywhere on the internet, I'd appreciate a link...
http://www.kongshirden1308.no/artikler/ ... panser.htm (source I)
interesting norwegian article about gambesons. only problem: it's in norwegian. at least it features some of the sources given below and some interesting pictures.
pictorial sources
Maciejowski-bible (~1250, Paris)
http://www.medievaltymes.com/courtyard/ ... _bible.htm
examples:
http://www.hochmittelalter.net/Klamotte ... beson.html
The Life of King Edward the Confessor (1250-1260, England)
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/MSS/Ee.3.59/
Codex Manesse (1305-1340, Zürich)
http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/cpg848
written sources
The Chronica Colmarensis (1298) describes and aketon as "wambasia, id est, tunicam spissam ex lino stuppa, vel veteribus pannis consutam" or a tight/fast tunic of linen or "pasted" hemp, sewn together, or sewn together out of small pieces.
(source I)
"The Ordonnances des Métiers de Paris of 1298 state that gamboison should be made of cloth, téle, and on the inside
coton et de plois des toiles, or "folded cotton in many layers". Also, cendal (lower quality silk) is mentioned as covering and inner layer. In 1311 the Ordonnances call the gamboisons "tunics sewn through" and we are told that one shall use at least three pounds of cotton per aune (yard) unless made from "sicines" (whatever that is). Cotton here can mean "cottoned" wool. "
(SOURCE?)
"The Armorers Company of London say in their 1322 ordonnance:
"“It was ordeyned for ye comon proffyt and assented that from henceforth all Armour made in ye Cytie to sell be good and concenable after ye forme that henceforth That is to saie that an Akton and Gambezon covered with sendall or of cloth of Silke be stuffed with new clothe of cotten and of cadar and of olde sendall and not otherwise. And that ye wyite acketonnes be stuffed of olde lynnen and of cottone and of new clothe wth in and wth out.It is ordeyned that all ye crafte of ye citie of London be truely ruled and governed every person in his nature in due maner so that no falsehood ne false workemanshipp nor Deceipt be founde in no maner wise in any of ye foresaid crafte for ye worship of ye good folke of all ye same crafte and for the common proffytt of ye peopleâ€Â
Collection of primary sources 13th-14th cent. textile armor
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Collection of primary sources 13th-14th cent. textile armor
Last edited by Stefan L on Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Not specifically on textile armour:
I. Pictorial sources:
ca. 1415 France: Les tres riches heures du Duc de Berry (selected images only)
http://humanities.uchicago.edu/images/h ... eures.html
1500's Spanish and Inca: Felipe Waman Puma, El primer nueva corónica y buen gobierno
http://www.kb.dk/permalink/2006/poma/in ... ntpage.htm
II. Written sources:
Internet Medieval Sourcebook
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook.html
I. Pictorial sources:
ca. 1415 France: Les tres riches heures du Duc de Berry (selected images only)
http://humanities.uchicago.edu/images/h ... eures.html
1500's Spanish and Inca: Felipe Waman Puma, El primer nueva corónica y buen gobierno
http://www.kb.dk/permalink/2006/poma/in ... ntpage.htm
II. Written sources:
Internet Medieval Sourcebook
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook.html
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Are you restricting this to Western Europe? Because Byzantium used padded armour for centuries before the West started using it. Known as kavadion or epilorikion, depending on whether it was worn by itself or over armour. No mention that I know of, of it being worn under armour.
I haven't heard this derivation for pourpoint, but it certainly makes more sense than "for points" (ie to support the points that hold up the rest of your gear).
However, I believe gambeson to come from the Germanic wambais, which is related to our "womb" - it means the guts. I think gambois=hempfluff is a back-derivation - ie gambois came from wambais rather than the other way around.
I haven't heard this derivation for pourpoint, but it certainly makes more sense than "for points" (ie to support the points that hold up the rest of your gear).
However, I believe gambeson to come from the Germanic wambais, which is related to our "womb" - it means the guts. I think gambois=hempfluff is a back-derivation - ie gambois came from wambais rather than the other way around.
Egfroth
It's not really armour if you haven't bled on it.
It's not really armour if you haven't bled on it.