Favorite helm... ... Only one pic to a post.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:51 pm

<center>This is my favorite helm... why?

Because I like it.

I like the construction.
I like the look and feel.
I think it's what an early helm should look like.
I want to make another one.

What is your favorite helm?

Got pics?

Hal</center>

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:01 pm

Should this be in the off topics?

Wait... I will talk about construction. Yes?

Ok, the panels are 6 and they can be dished out a bit to look nice.

Notice the sharp crease in the spangen bands.
Also the spacing of the rivets.... Clean and neat...

Not to mention the chisel work....

I would of not put the border holes that close together.
Maybe it is for the maile?

Ok.. I would of pounded that little round piece on top a little more,
You know.. with the wooden dowell or the white plastic thingy...

http://home.armourarchive.org/members/h ... lastic.jpg

Hal

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:24 pm

Mine too. Here is my version.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:36 pm

You Sir... have good taste in helms.
Thanks for the fine pic.
I always like your posts.
A credit to our forum.

My first try:
http://halberds.arador.com/images/helmets/helmet02.jpg

(Edited to add: Maybe the holes were much smaller before the degradation process.)

Mord · Post by **Mord** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:07 am

Speaking of spangenhelms, there's a series of articles (in German) about these helms in "Acta Praehistorica et Archaeologic" Volume 35, 2003. There's, as far as my notes have recorded, 8 articles.

Mord.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:05 pm

evene if the eyeslots are not saw toothed

platearmor · Post by **platearmor** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:34 pm

Terry here..........

This is my favorite:

It has elegant lines. The details of the fluting are crisp and precise.

The ornamentation is not overdone-I like that the flash is subordinate to the function. And it requires some skill, and overall attention to detail to craft.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:42 pm

The grandfather of helmets? It's my fave!

Mycenaean helmet made of leather, reinforced with a facing of scales cut from wild boar tusks.

Donal Mac Ruiseart · Post by **Donal Mac Ruiseart** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:16 pm

I have long considered the sugarloaf one of the most elegant designs.

[img]http://www.wholesaleknives.co.uk/greathelm4.jpg[/img]

Nissan Maxima · Post by **Nissan Maxima** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:13 pm

I love the over the top kawari hats

Lord O'Quinn · Post by **Lord O'Quinn** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:26 pm

Favorite design.. Sinrics visored Sugarloaf

Favorite one I made, my second spangen attempt with the HUGE bronze cross:

I liked it so much, I made another one (that actuall fit me this time) for SCA fighting:

I think this was a modified Hal pattern

RoaK · Post by **RoaK** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:49 pm

Always like this one.

Ld Thomas Willoughby · Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:50 am

This one has always been high on my list of armor porn.

[img]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4684/a79helmzs1.jpg[/img]

Talbot · Post by **Talbot** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:41 am

Since Murdock has posted the finest bascinet in existance I thought I would post something different.
This is the reconstruction of the fragments found in the well at the Louvre, Paris.

[img]http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armou ... ldore1.jpg[/img]

This shows just how richly decorated much of the royal and high status armour must have been!

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:52 am

My favourite helmet of all time is the one worn by the big bad guy with the beard in Willow. is it General Kale or something like that? Forget his name and don't have a pic but that's the coolest helm ever.

Ivo · Post by **Ivo** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:56 am

The finest bascinet ever, in my humble opinion, is the Klappvisier from Coburg.

Ivo · Post by **Ivo** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:05 am

One helmet per entry, so here goes- my favourite kettle hat.

It is in the Deutsches historisches Museum, Berlin, Germany, and it looks not very spectacular on photos. A few years ago however I had the chance to see it in the flesh in an exhibition at Speyer, Germany (forget about the catalogue, it isnÂ´t worth the money), and it is just...perfect.

Sleek, plain, all proportions in perfect balance, just the perfect combination of form and function.

Talbot · Post by **Talbot** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:21 am

Ivo wrote:The finest bascinet ever, in my humble opinion, is the Klappvisier from Coburg.

I gave that one soem serious consideration! I also considered the round faced bascinet from Valeria.

Ivo · Post by **Ivo** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:00 pm

Talbot wrote:
Ivo wrote:The finest bascinet ever, in my humble opinion, is the Klappvisier from Coburg.
I gave that one soem serious consideration! I also considered the round faced bascinet from Valeria.

Valeria is a nice one, too, but I had the opportunity to see the Coburg one up close....only 10" and glass between it and my nose... in the flesh it too is a beauty of almost perfect proportions, and in pristine condition.

Photos donÂ´t do armour any justice, even the ones in the new Churburg volume donÂ´t. I nicked every picture of Emperor MaximilianÂ´s gothic suit, and many big and sharp and well lighted one are among them, but with my nose pressed firmly against the pane of the glass case- whole different story.

Aonghus · Post by **Aonghus** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:02 pm

GAHHH!!! I can't find the image of my favorite. It's a Norman conical by Peter Fuller with the "INRI" etched, brass nasal. I can't find it on his site OR in my files!

Andrew Young · Post by **Andrew Young** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:50 pm

The finest bascinet ever, in my humble opinion, is the Klappvisier from Coburg.

I definately agree with this one too.....its high on my list.

Eric Bjornsson · Post by **Eric Bjornsson** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:17 pm

I love this helm!

Randy W · Post by **Randy W** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:21 pm

My personal favorite is the Armet ... when I think of a knight, this is what comes to mind
[img]http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/make/ho_20.150.1.htm[/img]

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:57 pm

Many share the top of my list but I have to admit that this one is probably a little above the rest. Bad Ass indeed!

Pad

GryphonMaster · Post by **GryphonMaster** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:48 pm

My Favorite is better than any other IMO.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:48 pm

Very nice helms you guys have as your fav. It is very hard to pick just one is it not?

Thanks for the pics.

Hal

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:50 pm

Padrig- Ditto
GryphonMaster- Ditto
I figure I have a favorite helm from each century.. or half century

Syrfinn · Post by **Syrfinn** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:07 pm

I know its overly used, but its still one of my favorite pieces. At one time, was even going to have one made like it to fight in.

Benedek · Post by **Benedek** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:25 pm

I cannot actually find the picture of the one that is my favorite. But this is similar, I really love it when the panels are covered in cloth adds an air of class to it I think.

http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/15 ... Helms.html

It's the 15th cent. kettle hat.

Thorstenn · Post by **Thorstenn** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:02 pm

Ok, I have a dumb question ? Why would something sooo valuable be found in a well. Something that butiful must be worth a small fortune.

Talbot wrote:Since Murdock has posted the finest bascinet in existance I thought I would post something different.
This is the reconstruction of the fragments found in the well at the Louvre, Paris.

[img]http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armou ... ldore1.jpg[/img]

This shows just how richly decorated much of the royal and high status armour must have been!

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:51 pm

Many times the good stuff would be out of sight of the raders.

Talbot · Post by **Talbot** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:38 am

Thorstenn wrote:Ok, I have a dumb question ? Why would something sooo valuable be found in a well. Something that butiful must be worth a small fortune.

Talbot wrote:Since Murdock has posted the finest bascinet in existance I thought I would post something different.
This is the reconstruction of the fragments found in the well at the Louvre, Paris.

[img]http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armou ... ldore1.jpg[/img]

This shows just how richly decorated much of the royal and high status armour must have been!

Several theories on that one. It may have been stolen, gold and silver parts pried off and the evidence dumped. This is a strong possibility as many of the most valuable and decorative elements are missing.

It may also have been done in the French Revolution. Take the valuable bits (as was done on the Chartres armour) smash the symbol of youal power and authority to bits and throw the bits in the well.

I don't think we know why it was down there--just that it was.

MJBlazek · Post by **MJBlazek** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:35 pm

While I love late period armor, I have to say that my favorite helm has got to be roman calvary... here is a pic from White Mountain, beautiful helm...

Saburou · Post by **Saburou** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:59 pm

MJBlazek, you should see that one in person, with a D. Sebastian inside it. Much louder and flashier, if not better looking

One of the ten helmets tied for all-time favorite:

chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:57 pm

Talbot wrote:
Thorstenn wrote:Ok, I have a dumb question ? Why would something sooo valuable be found in a well. Something that butiful must be worth a small fortune.

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Actually, there was a theft in the early 15th century recorded, and it is my understanding that this gilt latten chapel de fer dissapeared them. It is recorded in one inventory, and then missing two years later.

The thieves actually even tried to scrape off the gilding, and may have smashed it in frustration when they found that most of what they took to be solid precious metals were actually heavily gilded or silvered.

Favorite helm... ... Only one pic to a post.

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