Atantian Crown List-

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:26 pm

Dark Apprentice, Dark Apprentice, Dark Apprentice

Grace us with your Word of Wisdom and reveal to us who shall lead this Kingdom to Greatness

Aaron Rebellnus
Afshin Darius
Askold Grimr Brotamaor
Axel of Tavastia
Mungoe McKlinchey
Brian Killian the Red
Brianna bint Isleif
Bryan of Sacred Stone
Christian Thomas of York
Duncan MacLaren
Humfrey Mathew Lovett
Jason Kinslae
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Matthew of Battle
Michael O'Comhdhain
Ragnarr Blackhammer
Robert deRath
Theron Andronikos

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:28 pm

I'll be there handling money for the Dark One! I'm opening up a Franchise!!! :twisted:

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:37 pm

haha yes yes we will also be taking bets not only on the victor, but also on the overs and unders, the final four, who has the hottest consort, and of course the ever popular bonus bet quickest match up of the day.

All monies go to the feed the children (of Bryce and William) foundation.

:twisted:

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:39 pm

Bet often! My baby needs diapers!!! :twisted:

Agnarr · Post by **Agnarr** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:45 pm

Logan Ebonwoulfe all the way with Ted McKay.

Syrfinn · Post by **Syrfinn** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:49 pm

Interesting list. Some folks I am used to seeing on here, not on it.

Have an idea on semifinals, but have 5 folks, to fit in 4 slots,

, will have a better idea after this weekend, when I hope to see some old friends I havent seen since Pennsic, at Blackstone.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:58 pm

yeah probly Logan

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:06 pm

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Duke Icefalcon · Post by **Duke Icefalcon** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:35 pm

I think DA is sleeping ....

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:45 pm

Okay letâ€™s just say everyone shows upâ€¦ though we all know this will not be the case, here is my final 8. As the time draws closer I will narrow the list down to my final two.

Afshin Darius
Matthew of Battle
Brian Killian the Red
Bryan of Sacred Stone
Jason Kinslae
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer
Robert deRath

Just wanting to get some action happening here

WT

Syrfinn · Post by **Syrfinn** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 pm

Lol, well your bottom 5 are the 5 I am trying to fit in my semis.

Just dont know how much Robert has been practicing lately, he is my unknown.

I want to say Bryan/Logan/Ragnar/Jason as my final 4. But if Robert has been practicing hard, I would put him in there, and have to figure out who I would take out, of Jason or Bryan.

DarkApprentice · Post by **DarkApprentice** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:44 am

This Crown is very top heavy. I have been waiting on the injury report to make odds, but I will make some now, and depending on how the injury report comes out I will update them.

3-1 Logan Ebonwoulfe
He will win. He has a focus that no one else in this list has, and it will help carry him through to the finals, and likely the win.

10-1 Ragnarr Blackhammer
Ragnarr is a danged good lefty, but that holds as many problems for him as it does hold assets. Logan is really good against lefties, so I don't think that will prove to be a help for him there. Likewise, Ragnarr is weak in multiple weapons forms, so that will also affect him.

10-1 Robert deRath
Robert is really solid. The problem is that is all he is. He will need to be a little more than that to beat Logan. Like Ragnarr, although he is really good, there is not the intense level of focus here that Logan brings to the table. Unlike Ragnarr, Robert is good at multiple weapons forms. The best thing that I think he could do would be to call Logan out with bastard sword in the finals, as he might be stronger with Logan in that form. If he does that and stays away from SS, he could have a good shot.

20-1 Bryan of Sacred Stone
Bryan has continually been finishing near the top of Atlantian lists. He has a long history with Logan, being formerly from the same household, so Logan still holds some wujoo over him I think. Bryan is also weaker than Logan in multiple weapons, not that I think this would matter in the finals, as they would probably both pick SS for each fight (although it would be to Logan's benefit to probably pick something else, he has enough confidence in his SS to take Bryan).

25-1 Jason Kinslae

Jason is really good. He doesn't realize how good he is though, and doesn't have the focus that he needs to stay on target and win.

30-1 Brian Killian the Red

Gets better every day. He could surprise a few people.

40-1 Afshin Darius

Afshin is a really good Atlantian unblet who routinely finishes well in unbelted tournaments around the Knowne World. Too bad this isn't an Unbelted Tournament or his odds would be higher.

50-1 Christian Thomas of York

Solid fight. Can bring it if he needs to. The problem is that in the final rounds I think that he would need to rely on being able to take advantage of the mistakes of others, rather than being able to take control of the fights.

75-1 Matthew of Battle

Another good unbelt.

100-1 and greater
Aaron Rebellnus
Askold Grimr Brotamaor
Axel of Tavastia
Brianna bint Isleif
Duncan MacLaren
Humfrey Mathew Lovett
Michael O'Comhdhain
Theron Andronikos
Mungoe McKlinchey

Enjoy!

DA

PS my semis are Logan vs Ragnarr and Robert vs Bryan Finals Logan vs Robert winner Logan

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:53 am

Here is my top eight, assuming all show. (Haven't checked the daily update of AI yet....)

Afshin Darius
Brian Killian the Red
Bryan of Sacred Stone
Jason Kinslae
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer
Robert deRath
Theron Andronikos

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Matthew of Battle

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:28 am

I see your final eight:

Afshin Darius
Brian Killian the Red
Bryan of Sacred Stone
Jason Kinslae
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer
Robert deRath
Theron Andronikos

and give you my final four in order of probable outcome.

Logan
Ragnarr
Robert
Jason

All depending on likelihood of presence, I also think Bryan could take any of those spots.

-Justus

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:58 am

Old Darkness, always trying to one up me

....and FAILING! Haha! :twisted:

Most likely not to fight:
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer

Figure those odds...

haha!

(Curse you for making me go to the AI website early you old Dark bastard!!!) :twisted:

Donal Mac Ruiseart · Post by **Donal Mac Ruiseart** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:16 pm

"I got the horse right here,
The name is Paul Revere,
And there's a guy who says if the weather's clear,
Can do,
Can do,
This guy says the horse can do . . . . "

David Edwinson · Post by **David Edwinson** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:20 pm

Donal Mac Ruiseart wrote:"I got the horse right here,
The name is Paul Revere,
And there's a guy who says if the weather's clear,
Can do,
Can do,
This guy says the horse can do . . . . "

When I started reading a thread about a crown tourney, one of the last things I would have expected was a "Guys and Dolls" reference...

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:33 pm

BdeB wrote:Old Darkness, always trying to one up me ....and FAILING! Haha!

Most likely not to fight:
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer

Figure those odds...

haha!

(Curse you for making me go to the AI website early you old Dark bastard!!!)

No your're right. but ya' got to go with the available list.

If the gentelmen dukes don't show it will probably be Bryan and Robert, or Jason and Robert in the finals.

-J

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:15 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and put my $1 on Sir Bryan.

Fighting him this weekend was fun, and he showed he can deliver excellent power in an accurate manner.

-Aaron

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:22 pm

You are not too far out on that limb, Bryan has done very well in past crowns.

-Justus

Cian of Storvik · Post by **Cian of Storvik** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:22 pm

That's a pretty tough list to widdle down. Ragnar vs. Logan is clash of the titans stuff though. I wouldn't want to be either of those helmets.

In the grand theoretical scheme of unstoppable force vs. immovable objects; where Logan or Ragnar are "the unstoppable" in the equation, "the object" tends to get the hell out of the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzcy1Z5Z ... re=related

That dude is the beast.
-Cian

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:36 pm

BdeB wrote:Old Darkness, always trying to one up me ....and FAILING! Haha!

Most likely not to fight:
Logan Ebonwoulfe
Ragnarr Blackhammer

Figure those odds...

haha!

(Curse you for making me go to the AI website early you old Dark bastard!!!)

DON'T GIVE AWAY FOR FREE WHAT WE CAN SELL THE CHILDRENS HAS GOTS TO EAT

Nothing to see here keep moving

WT
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WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 pm

Saddly Darkness from all the AI on who is not showing... this would have been a really good crown for you.

Hell they may have even allowed you to punch someone in the face and knock the shit out of them and say... oh sorry William please don't take that my hand was behind the head :twisted:

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:32 pm

Jason took me to pieces at Yimir, even if I hadn't have broken down he had the better of that fight. It will be a while till I'm ready for a crown.

But I'm always ready to accidentally axe punch a squire. :wink:

-Justus

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:35 pm

Justus: "I didn't punch him in the face with my axe...like that is something to just do, Axe-Punch somebody....Yeah, I Punched him with my Axe!"

:twisted:

Ole Darkness is as Darkness does.

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:42 pm

Oh come on, I've only forgotten once or maybe twelve times since the new rule. I've got tape to prove it!

Enough about me, anyone think this list is rather smallish?

-Justus

Winterfell · Post by **Winterfell** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:48 pm

Yup.
If all of the current entrants show, the tourney will be over in two hours.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:15 pm

justus wrote:Enough about me, anyone think this list is rather smallish?

I have found most events to be smallish lately, gas prices blow and the winner will have to travel. On that note putting crown 7 hours plus driving distance from the larger half of the kingdom population likely did not help turn out.

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:21 pm

I was hoping to fight in this crown, but then my wife somehow got pregnant, and the Lady I was going to fight for had to cancel due to family issues as well.

I'm sure other folks have similar issues.

Everybody keeps talking about gas prices, so it must have some sort of effect.

Also, and who knows where these things come from, but I've heard that Dukes Ragnar and Logan won't be fighting.

WilliamThomas · Post by **WilliamThomas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:39 pm

BdeB wrote:Justus: "I didn't punch him in the face with my axe...like that is something to just do, Axe-Punch somebody....Yeah, I Punched him with my Axe!"

Ole Darkness is as Darkness does.

HAHA this made me bust out laughing, it has just been too dang long since we all got to sit down together and poke fun at the Darkness

WT

justus · Post by **justus** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:47 pm

Dante della Luna wrote:I was hoping to fight in this crown, but then my wife somehow got pregnant, and the Lady I was going to fight for had to cancel due to family issues as well.

I'm sure other folks have similar issues.

Everybody keeps talking about gas prices, so it must have some sort of effect.

Also, and who knows where these things come from, but I've heard that Dukes Ragnar and Logan won't be fighting.

There is also the idea of taking on a reign that may have even higher gas prices. One event is not a big deal, a year of events on the other hand...

Might be a lot of folks saying, "After you!" "No no, after you!" :wink:

-Justus

DarkApprentice · Post by **DarkApprentice** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:31 pm

In the absence of Ducal prerogative, and the Dukes Ragnar and Logan, here is an optional list:

5:1 Robert deRath

With Logan and Ragnar out he is best prepared to win.

8:1 Bryan of Sacred Stone

Bryan wants it the most out of this bunch and has the skill to back that up. I think he vs Robert would be a good match in the finals. Robert would be smart to go to multiple weapons to defeat Bryan as he has little in the way of weapons depth- compared to Robert at least who is a real rocker with the Bastard Sword (metal!!!).

12:1 Jason Kinslae

Jason is probably a more skillful fighter than Bryan, but he doesn't have the force of will that Bryan does, so I think Bryan will probably do better. They would be a good match in the finals or anywhere else as well.

18:1 Brian Killian the Red

He is there, and is finally starting to realize it. If his switch flips in this Crown, he could certainly win.

25:1 Afshin Darius

Afshin has been fighting forever it seems like and slowly but surely always getting better. This would be a good opportunity for him to tack charge and win Crown. The issue is, can he overcome everyone else to get there. I mean he is good and all, but can he beat the other dudes to win? The draw will play a major role in how well he does.

30:1 Matthew of Battle

Matthew is someone who could also do well based on the draw. He is finally getting good and hungry enough that he will start affecting tournaments. Like he will probably knock out at least one contender. Right now, I don't think he yet has the juice to go all the way.

35:1 Mungoe McKlinchey

Frankly, without the heavy hitters (Dukes) in this tourney, Mungoe would have a huge chance to go all the way. Likely, though, Bryan or Robert or Jason could throw with enough heat often enough to take him down. He could easily end up affecting this list.

40:1 Christian Thomas of York

Is still a solid fighter and could do well in this tourney.

50:1 Axel of Tavastia

In the past has not been a closer. We will see how far he goes.

75:1 Theron Andronikos

Just got Knighted. This will be his first time in the big show since then.

100:1 and above

Aaron Rebellnus
Askold Grimr Brotamaor
Brianna bint Isleif
Duncan MacLaren
Humfrey Mathew Lovett
Michael O'Comhdhain

Enjoy!

DA

dukelogan · Post by **dukelogan** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:01 am

rumors.....

why does anyone pay attention to them when they could easily just ask people directly? but then if that happened the sca would crumble to pieces.

to date ive had no more than three people ask me if im fighting, i bet rags has had no more than me.

logan

Dante della Luna wrote:I was hoping to fight in this crown, but then my wife somehow got pregnant, and the Lady I was going to fight for had to cancel due to family issues as well.

I'm sure other folks have similar issues.

Everybody keeps talking about gas prices, so it must have some sort of effect.

Also, and who knows where these things come from, but I've heard that Dukes Ragnar and Logan won't be fighting.

carlyle · Post by **carlyle** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:09 am

DarkApprentice wrote:75:1 Theron Andronikos

Just got Knighted. This will be his first time in the big show since then.

There was a time in the Midrealm when this was often the best indication of who was likely to win the next Crown :twisted:

... AoC