Pennsic Warriors of History Tourney: Axes of the Ages

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:42 pm

To all who shall hear these presents, greetings!

Be it known that:

3:00 - 7:00 pm
Blue List
Immediately following the Battle of the 30
at Pennsic, the Cataphracts and Knights of Duchy Von Drachenklaue (VDK) will be holding the 3rd Annual Warriors of History Tournament. Sponsored by the will and wisdom of the Barony of Concordia of the Snows, and it's steward, Baron Angus Kerr.

Official Name:
"The Warriors of History Tourney" by the Cataphracts and Knights of
Duchy Von Drachenklaue (VDK) A "Documentable Kit" brawl for unbelts.

Event:
An unbelted tournament for kits that meet the standards of the Fedoratii
of the VDK: Order of the Cataphract

Goal:
Encourage and inspire excellence of kit on the field.

Participants must:
appear as if he walked from the pages of history at a spear throws
distance*. His/Her appearance in Armour should inspire others to
excellence and must have no glaringly un-documentable aspects (beyond
those required for safety - ie: baskethilts, bargrills, cops, gauntlets,
etc). (Rule of thumb: if you can document it you can have it -- to
include kits based on period works of art.)

Abstract:
"...like a really cool night-club. Lots of fun on the inside, but you
have to get past the bouncer."

- Inspired by the awesome kits of the Battle of the 30, it is our desire
to hold an unbelted tournament held to the standards of our House Order:
the participants must be documentable from a spears throw (forgiving
safety items). This idea and the standards which we set will cause a
tremendous amount of tumult amongst the purists. We know this.

Two Winners will be selected.
- The Tournament Winner (martial prowess) will receive the title
"Fedoratii Primus Pilus, AS 43"

- The second winner will be chosen from amongst the participants as
"best kit in show" and receive the title "Fedoratii Signifer, AS 43".

- Both will be inducted into the VDK "Order of the Fedoratii", adorned
with badge, and receive material prizes.

Format
- TBD (a melee and singles fighting)

Entrants:
- Any non-Chivalry who desire and meet the standards may participate.

- There will be no limit to the number of participants. All are
encouraged to represent our Society with the best look possible.

- Unbelted Peers may participate, and may become the Tournament Winner (martial prowess - "Fedoratii Primus Pilus, AS xx") , but may NOT win the "best kit in show" - "Fedoratii Signifer, AS xx" prize. (It is our
expectation that all Peers would already have inspiring and
"historically accurate" kits, and thus do not need an event such as this
to encourage and celebrate.) Additionally, by placing the focus on
non-Peers we hope to raise the level of accuracy for the next
"generation" of SCA fighter. After all, it is Peers who are most often
emulated. If we can, in some small way, make better looking Peers next
generation, subsequent generations will be that much better. Therefore,
Pelicans and Laurels may win the martial aspect of the Tourney, but not
the appearance/"historical accurate" aspect of the tourney.

- Final admittance on the day will be by approval of two Armour Laurels
(TBD) and His Grace Duke Lucan von Drachenklaue

- Spectators are welcomed and desired.

Guaranteed rejections:
- Exposed modern footwear.
Period footwear is preferred. All effort must be made to make modern
footwear appear as period as possible.

- Street Hockey Gloves UNLESS covered / colored to look like real
Gaunts/gloves (similar to footwear rule).

- Exposed plastic to include plastic lamellar

- "Casserole" armour.
Casserole: mis-mash of time periods. e.g. Churburg brestplate with a
Dura helm and Wisby gauntlets and etc... (all these are documentable by
themselves, but centuries apart).

- Inappropriate persona/arms combination: (Viking with a heater,
great-swording Roman, madu, etc)

- A t-tunic over 'football' pads or similar look.

http://warriorsofhistory.com/

* * * *

New for this year:

- Chivalry who's kits are documentable and acceptable to the Armour Laurels may participate in the opening "Melee of the Ages". They may not participate in the tournament, but they are welcome to hold their own Tournament on the side. We will not be able to provide a MoL for this endeavor.

- Prior winners and Merchants are welcome to assist the Cataphracts in
coming up with or creating Tourney Prizes. Please contact us at EMAIL
TBA if you would like to assist in this manner.

- This years tourney will be themed: "Axes of the Ages"!
Bring a Axe that fits your persona.

Any axe that fits your persona. Be prepared to document your style of axe with your persona.

Vladimir · Post by **Vladimir** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:47 pm

woot, I'm not going to miss it this year.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:59 pm

i'll probly be still fighting at the Unbelted Champ's teams tourney.

If i'm not i'm pretty sure i'll be dead on my feet from that and the 30, if i can make it i will though.

nkante · Post by **nkante** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:27 am

Yeah D. I'm looking @ axes right now. I have not found any reference to axes used in combat for my Benin personna, but there are a few from nieghboring tribes as well as 'tool' axes from west Africa. I'm also working on some foot wear. My guys went bare foot, so this might take some real work.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:37 am

Master Wulfstan the Unshod fights barefoot!
:twisted:

I have no doubt that you will come up with something both appropriate and impressive my friend.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:12 am

I'll be away from Pennsic this year, but this tournament was definately a high-point for me at Pennsic.

Have fun!

-Aaron

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:23 am

You and your poleaxe will be missed!

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:27 am

Do you want me to mail you my poleaxe? That way you're half-way there!

Kotek · Post by **Kotek** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:32 am

D. Sebastian wrote:Master Wulfstan the Unshod fights barefoot!

That'd be really cool to see... Sadly here in Lochac we're required to wear shoes when fighting. D:

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:19 pm

Greetings,

Is ax fighting mandatory?

Hjlmr inn Danski

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:20 pm

I'm not in charge, but since you axed nicely....

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:33 pm

Greetings,

Aaron wrote:I'm not in charge, but since you axed nicely....

That's the problem. . .I don't axe nicely.

Hjlmr inn Danski

audax · Post by **audax** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:30 pm

nkante wrote:Yeah D. I'm looking @ axes right now. I have not found any reference to axes used in combat for my Benin personna, but there are a few from nieghboring tribes as well as 'tool' axes from west Africa. I'm also working on some foot wear. My guys went bare foot, so this might take some real work.

When do we get to see some photos of your kit, dude? I'd love to see it.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:47 pm

Hjlmr,

This year everyone fights with an axe. Any kind of axe that fits your persona.

We wanted to make it a little different this year.

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:46 pm

Greetings,

D. Sebastian wrote:Hjlmr,

This year everyone fights with an axe. Any kind of axe that fits your persona.

We wanted to make it a little different this year.

Looks like I'm learning axe.

Who sells a good Danish axe head?

Hjlmr inn Dasnki

Oswyn_de_Wulferton · Post by **Oswyn_de_Wulferton** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:22 pm

Hey D, what of those of us without full gauntlets? Not sure I can document axe and shield...

Corwin of ArgentLupe · Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:38 pm

So close... Just need to find footwear in the next 30 days. :cry:

olaf haraldson · Post by **olaf haraldson** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:31 am

Hjlmir- I will have two... you can use one, if you need... I know that doesn't give you any chance to fight with one before hand, but if need be, you can use my spare.
Olaf

Hjlmr inn Danski wrote:Greetings,

D. Sebastian wrote:Hjlmr,

This year everyone fights with an axe. Any kind of axe that fits your persona.

We wanted to make it a little different this year.

Looks like I'm learning axe.

Who sells a good Danish axe head?

Hjlmr inn Dasnki

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:48 am

Greetings,

olaf haraldson wrote:Hjlmir- I will have two... you can use one, if you need... I know that doesn't give you any chance to fight with one before hand, but if need be, you can use my spare.
Olaf

Hjlmr inn Danski wrote:Greetings,

D. Sebastian wrote:Hjlmr,

This year everyone fights with an axe. Any kind of axe that fits your persona.

We wanted to make it a little different this year.

Looks like I'm learning axe.

Who sells a good Danish axe head?

Hjlmr inn Dasnki

Thanks Olaf. I ordered a head from Windrose not five minutes ago. I'd like some practice first.

Hjlmr inn Danski

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:29 am

Oswyn_de_Wulferton wrote:Hey D, what of those of us without full gauntlets? Not sure I can document axe and shield...

What persona?

Oswyn_de_Wulferton · Post by **Oswyn_de_Wulferton** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:18 pm

12th century Crusader. I am fairly sure I can document a 2 handed axe (maybe not to nobility, but Mac Bible has a few in various hands), but without full gauntlets, that may be tricky.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:22 pm

You can borrow my gauntlets.

white mountain armoury · Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:10 pm

figgures its an axe fight the year I cant make it.

muttman · Post by **muttman** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:02 pm

I almost wish I were going to Pennsic for this!
Drefan

B. Amos · Post by **B. Amos** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:12 pm

I got my axe, been practiceing a bit and am ready to rock and roll. this is my favorite torney, EVER! definatly looking forward to it this year.

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:42 pm

D Sebastin,

I'd like to ask if my demo-kit will pass muster. Regretably it's a kludge of 2 seperate 16th century styles. The breast, fauld and tassets are simple gothic but the arms, legs, pauldrons, sabatons and helm are Milanese. At the time I bought it (now 10 years ago) I wasn't the historical purist I am now and honestly the dicotomy of pieces is glarring to my eye... but I'd still like to come and play.

Sean

olaf haraldson · Post by **olaf haraldson** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:28 pm

D- If I pm you with a pic of my kit, can you give me a nod as to if it SHOULD pass muster? I won't hold you to it, but I don't wanna get dressed up for nothing...
Olaf

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:08 pm

Greetings,

olaf haraldson wrote:D- If I pm you with a pic of my kit, can you give me a nod as to if it SHOULD pass muster? I won't hold you to it, but I don't wanna get dressed up for nothing...
Olaf

Same here?

Hjlmr inn Danski

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:40 am

You can send me PM or email me pics, but it might be better to post them here. If your kit is not in my area of study, I'll likely have to refer to more learned persons who know your area.

Sean,
Is it plausable that someone would be found in a mismash of those two armour styles?

olaf haraldson · Post by **olaf haraldson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:00 am

OK, here goes then. 11th cwntury "viking"
[img]http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg228/olafharaldson/Old%20Armour/2491415150_924b435570_b.jpg[/img]

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:33 am

Olaf, the kit looks great!
From your feet to your neck, it could be a kit from a vast number of times and cultures. The round shield narrows that a bit. My question would the helm be "Viking"?

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:15 am

Greetings,

How about me. . .?

[img]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii60/hjlmrinndanski/Sir%20Eddies%2008/DSC01363.jpg[/img]

That's me on the left and Arg on the right.

I try to do a Danish viking in Jorvik around 867.

Hjlmr inn Danski

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:21 am

D. Sebastian wrote:Sean,
Is it plausable that someone would be found in a mismash of those two armour styles?

Well they are both 'export' harnesses from the 16th century. It's possible that someone from outside of Italy or Germany might have purchased the pieces seperately but unlikely. I did find one or two itallian harnesses that have a split breastplate but the split was lower and of a later 16th centry profile. There are also split breastplates like the avant with a buckle connecting the two pieces so it's well know technology to both manufacturers. We also know that armorers from Italy and Germany copied each other frequently while trying to outdo each other so it might be plausible to be an italian copy of a more germanic style.

Honestly the best I can say is they are contemporary +/- maybe 25 years and probably manufactured within 250 miles of each other (Ausberg to Milan). I probably could have shown up and no one would have noticed but I wouldn't have been being honest with myself.

Sean

Drogo the Clueless · Post by **Drogo the Clueless** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:31 pm

Hmm... was thinking of trying to participate in this tourney. What would a Templar like crusader use as an axe? The real problem is that I only have a primary authorization.

So is there any examples of a crusader using a one handed axe and a shield?

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:57 pm

Again everyone - It is not about looking "good", but about looking "correct"! Any kit is fine, but YOU must be able to justify the kit based on historical evidence.

"_________ said this is historical" is NOT evidence.

Many of the people who want to fight in the tourney bring documentation of their kit to justify things that look "out of place". Some bring documentation on kits that look exactly correct!

In the past we've let small things slide, but as the tourney has grown, we've been keeping more true to the core concept: Accuracy of kit upon the field.

Now, many people ask about their kit because of the need to flex the standard because of mandated safety requirements. Thats understandable! But (now I get to be a dick), if YOU don't know if some aspect of your is accurate, should you be fighting in the tourney?

Please do not ask or the Laurrels me "is this kit ok?", because the reply will be, I don't know, IS your kit OK? and then "Why is it OK."

Sean,
You've shown yourself to be just and of the mindset we seek.
If you can plausably explaine the use of the arms/legs/body together, then yes - as long as the armour Laurels agree.