stolen armor? Or maybe this guy bought it from a guy who did

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:56 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0100782750

I.F. armor for 199.98?

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:05 am

Well, he clearly knows nothing about armor- he's got the breastplate upside-down and the arms where the legs should be. "Got it from an estate sale" could be legitimate, but even if so, the original seller had to be pretty daft to let an entire Icefalcon suit go for $200.

Charles Alexander · Post by **Charles Alexander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:11 am

Klaus the Red wrote:Well, he clearly knows nothing about armor- he's got the breastplate upside-down and the arms where the legs should be. "Got it from an estate sale" could be legitimate, but even if so, the original seller had to be pretty daft to let an entire Icefalcon suit go for $200.

LOL. Imagine him trying to put it on that way. :lol:

David S · Post by **David S** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:17 am

If i had some extra cash, I would snap this baby up.

He clearly isn't using a stock photo, so this is more likely to be a non-fraudulent auction. However, if these items are stolen, maybe the person whose items they are will notice them here.

sean of the chipendales · Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:24 am

He also wants 200 in shipping. :shock:

Sean of the Chipendales

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:34 am

sean of the chipendales wrote:He also wants 200 in shipping.

Sean of the Chipendales

Yeah, I saw that.

I was tempted to put a bid in, but damn, $200 shipping...

Aerimus13 · Post by **Aerimus13** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:41 am

I looked at the feedback. The person is in Germany and a lot of the feedback talks about them being a good buyer. If the person can't tell where they are really from I don't think they can be trusted.

William of Otterton · Post by **William of Otterton** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:43 am

"quality leather rivets"

and apparently it's chrome...

gah.

I'm going to forward this link to the Ealdormere elist just in case. I don't recall any stolen armour locally but someone may, on the off chance, recognize it if it is.

hrolf · Post by **hrolf** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:47 am

the fact that he only takes money orders and personal checks is a big flashing warning sign to me.

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:47 am

A blind man could tell that that is Icefalcon stainless armour.

At $200 + $200 shipping, that's still the deal of a lifetime.

The helm itself is probably more than $600 new.

Wish I wasn't dead broke.

Cian of Storvik · Post by **Cian of Storvik** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:56 am

It says Thurmont, Maryland. That's driving distance (1.5 hrs) from me :twisted:

-Cian

Baron Gaston · Post by **Baron Gaston** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:01 am

the item location is Thurmont, Maryland, United States so is the seller I am not sure where we got Germany from.

Anyone from northern Atlantia remember someone fighitng in a full Ice suit like that?

Apollonian · Post by **Apollonian** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:32 am

Not many people pick up an entire suit. Ice might remember something.

Falcone

Calder · Post by **Calder** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:56 am

"Estate Sale" is a pretty common term used for things that are from an "unknown" or "questionable" background (although I guess in all reality, it could have been legit) that often keeps Ebay from flagging anything as strange. Although having sold stuff on there recently, I am surprised they are letting $200 for S/H fly....especially within the US....new policies are supposed to prevent sellers from making excessive profit on s/h...

Calder · Post by **Calder** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:08 am

Anyone get any size info? Probably should wait to hear from Ice first, in case he knows of any shady past to this rig....

Aerimus13 · Post by **Aerimus13** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:21 am

My fault about the german thing. I read the feedback wrong.

Aerimus13 · Post by **Aerimus13** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:30 pm

it is up to 455 bucks now. Oh well I want Greek armor anyway.

Dierick · Post by **Dierick** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:43 pm

Not only is the breastplate upside down, but the legs are pictured as the arms, and the spaulders and arms are shown as the legs. I just can't see someone who has ABSOLUTELY no idea about armour, buying this at an estate sale. If they were really that dumb, they would be trying to sell it for much much more thinking its antique armour or something.

We need to find out who this used to belong too. Rarely do we ever get a chance to find someone stupid enough to put this on ebay, and I think we, as a community of armourers and reenactors, need to step up and do whatever we can to catch this guy if indeed the armour is stolen.

Calder · Post by **Calder** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:46 pm

Assuming it is stolen, bid and bid and never pay...it's happened to me plenty of times as a seller, but thats assuming it is stolen for sure...karma can be a bit of a bugger....

Charles Alexander · Post by **Charles Alexander** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:05 pm

Calder de Clairvaux wrote:...karma can be a bit of a bugger....

Indeed...

Seamus mac Dhughaill · Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:07 pm

Estate sale can also mean this guy bought the contents of an unpaid storage shed. If someone gets behind on rent, the owners will first lock them out and then if it goes too long will sell the contents to highest bidder, sight unseen.

This could be legit. People seem to think negative of others too quickly. We should give this person the benefit of the doubt.

my 2 pence,

Brynjolfr Hrafnsson · Post by **Brynjolfr Hrafnsson** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:17 pm

This seller has a TON of negative feedback. Lots of people paid him for things and he never shipped them. There are only 3 negatives in the last 12 months, but go back further through the detailed feedback and he has ripped a lot of folks off.

I wouldnt bid on this armor even if it *is* legit.

Lucas · Post by **Lucas** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:33 pm

There is a guy at my local practice in Arlington, VA (close to the maryland border) who fights in a full Ice suit, just like this, identical helmet and everything. I will see if I can contact him.

Lucas

waveicle · Post by **waveicle** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:46 pm

Someone must recognize this setup by the brass band of chain at the bottom of the shirt.

Richard of Rivenvale · Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:52 pm

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Castus_valerius · Post by **Castus_valerius** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 pm

I'm guessing someone messaged ebay.