Photos of covered armour

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:27 pm

In light of the recent "Exposed plastic-what can we do about it?" thread, I am inspired to write an article (or series of articles) to help people look better on the field.

So what I am looking for are examples of armour where a lot of it is covered. It can be where the actual armour is covered, or with garb (tunic, jupon, etc.). I would rather photos of SCA kits, but good quality images of historical images would be okay. Supportive evidence may or may not be helpful.

Different periods would be great. Multiple photos of the same kit would be helpful. I guess I want something where any fighter could get ideas of how to look better on the field. A quick-start guide to looking good.

Please don't flame me because giving people a a reason to be lazy and not properly research a persona, etc. I am trying to help people with a quick and dirty way of drastically improving their appearance.

By submitting your photo(s) here, you are giving me permission to publish it, yada yada yada.

Angusm0628 · Post by **Angusm0628** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:38 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14678962@N03/2228559614/

The one on the left has his plastic covered. Sorry but it's the best picture I have of someone in a plastic breastplate where it doesn't look like he's wearing a plastic breastplate.

Magnus of Red Hammer · Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:07 pm

http://www.pyrokinetika.com/Boris/armor ... carmor.htm

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:45 pm

See plastic thread.

Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:44 am

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Fabric covered shirt of mail. Belonged to the Grand Vizier Mahmut Pasha (? - 1474) From the Istanbul Military Museum.

-Donasian.

Robert of Canterbury · Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:52 am

My Corrazina is a light leather shell with plastic plates. (I'm on the right)

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Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:00 am

Thanks, all. Keep them coming.

Remember, the actual armour doesn't need to be plastic, just covered. I mean, a steel breastplate that is covered accomplishes the same goal.

Maghnus Ã“ Sionnaigh:
Is that an article you wrote? Do you have any other photos of your in your kit? Perferably like the grey tunic/surcoat where you had pants and winengas on?

Robert:
Do you have a higher resolution image where you focus on just you, not fighting?

Baron Eirik · Post by **Baron Eirik** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:25 am

Mail & tunic over a thick leather kidney belt & hockey elbow guards. Trousers over hockey knee guards. Hockey gloves covered with suede fireplace gloves.

Helm covered in leather.

Maelgwyn · Post by **Maelgwyn** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:12 am

I'm wearing white plastic elbow and knee cops in this picture, along with splinted aluminum cuises. I'm on the left.

And yes, since I got my spiffy Centurion's Superman cape, I have gained the ability to levitate and fly during combat. Still working on reversing time though.

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:14 am

Kydex Coat of Plates and Kydex splints in the cuisses

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14 ... 0_2426.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14 ... CF0131.jpg[/img]

Malachiuri · Post by **Malachiuri** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:26 am

You can just see the outline of my new HDPE "tummy tamer"(thanks honey) armour that I made for Estrella.

If I can hide heat formed plastic against my big chubby body, Id think anyone can.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:35 am

Full segmented globose style ABS plastic body armor.
House of the Wolf leather bazubands.
leather and padded cuisses with simple knees.

lochinvar76 · Post by **lochinvar76** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:47 am

The unit I fight with potrays a Landsknecht fahlein and have been making a push to present a more historical look in our camp and in the field. The great thing about playing a landsknecht is that you get the benefit of puffy sleeves and plunderhosen to hide your armor, much of what our guys fight in being cobbled togther pieces from leather, plastic and aluminum. So, here's a few pictures of hidden armor from this last Estrella and a war practice beforehand.

http://kokotech.net/bty/Estrella%20XXv% ... _0106.html

Notice that you can't see the body bracelet or the elbows. Too bad you can't see the legs, but no armor is visible their either.

http://kokotech.net/bty/Estrella%20XXv% ... _0126.html

On the right is one of our Soldiers. The outfit is simple and designed to replicate the basic look of slash and puff, but other than helmet, gauntlets and mundane boots, everything is completely hidden. As I recall, he has plastic leg and body bracelet.

http://kokotech.net/bty/Estrella%20XXv% ... _0201.html

Sir Malaius in the blue and yellow woffenrock. Helmet and gauntlets visible, but beyond that, the rest of his armor is completely covered and I recall much of what he was wearing being plastic and leather.

http://kokotech.net/bty/BTY/album/slides/26.html

This is me on the right in the green Woffenrock. My legs have palstic cuisses but they are not only hidden by the skirt, but by a complete pair of slash and puff hosen (and big poofy codpiece you can't see). Vambraces are plastic and my body bracelet is thick ABS riveted to leather and then sandwiched between cotton cloth. I had blackened steel gauntlets, but they disappeared from the field several wars back and I'm saving up for a pair of finger gauntlets. It pains me to wear hockey gloves, but I keep telling myself it's only temprorary.

http://kokotech.net/bty/BTY/album/slides/34.html

Back view of one of our Dopples, Stefan. Other than gauntlets and helmet, you'd never know he had armor on. Wish we had a good front view of him to show.

All in all, our look is getting better and by next Estrella you'll probably be lucky to see any exposed armor on any of our guys. The biggest reason that his is working too, is that our older fighters who've been around a long time are spending the time to help and mentor the newer fighters. Frequent 'sewing nights' and 'armor nights' not only help everyone improve their look and hide the hideous plastic armor, but it also builds camaraderie.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:23 pm

Perfect stuff, Insane Irish and lochinvar76.

lochinvar76, other, full body (less interesting photos) would be very appreciated if you can arrange it. In the mean time, can you get permission for me to use those photos? I don't want to use them without permission.

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:10 pm

Jestyr wrote:Perfect stuff, Insane Irish and lochinvar76.

lochinvar76, other, full body (less interesting photos) would be very appreciated if you can arrange it. In the mean time, can you get permission for me to use those photos? I don't want to use them without permission.

Here is a close up pic of my current rig. Please ignore the stupid expression and stance. I was trying to look "cool". didn't work.

Helm: Icefalcon Open faced sallet/barbute
gorget: Mandrake armoury leather with aluminum strips on the collar.
Body armour: Bokalos Armour ABS #700: http://bokalosarmoury.com/body.htm
Arms: House of the Wolf leather bazubands
legs: leather cuisses with blue camp foam padding and attached simple knees.
Gauntlets: Sir Andy Ward mondo style gauntlets

The rock was made by my lovely wife. The yellow shirt was a blowsy "poet's shirt" I picked up at a rennfair. The "hose" are literally a pair of thin navy sweatpants and are 1 size to small for me. I put the legs on then put the pants on over them. Ignore the combat boots, I am working spats for them.

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:42 pm

Greetings,

[img]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii60 ... G_0349.jpg[/img]

Simple lacrosse harness under a wool tunic and chain mail shirt.
Leather bazubands.
Plastic legs under the pants.

Hjlmr inn Danski

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:04 pm

http://ursus.smugmug.com/gallery/210140 ... rip/Medium

I'm on the left. The vambrace is ABS covered in leather, and the cuisses are pickle barrel covered in cotton fabric.

lochinvar76 · Post by **lochinvar76** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:59 pm

Jestyr wrote:Perfect stuff, Insane Irish and lochinvar76.

lochinvar76, other, full body (less interesting photos) would be very appreciated if you can arrange it. In the mean time, can you get permission for me to use those photos? I don't want to use them without permission.

These photos were taken by my father, and while he told me to do what I will with them, I'll run it by him tonight and let you know. Honestly, I'm sure it won't be a problem.

As for full body photos, I don't have those but with some time I am sure I could arrange for a number of them to be taken.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:07 pm

lochinvar76 wrote: As for full body photos, I don't have those but with some time I am sure I could arrange for a number of them to be taken.

That would be great. You guys are a great example of completely covering with garb what *could* be very ugly/non-period armour underneath.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:09 pm

Great looking examples, everyone. Please keep the photos coming.

Ingvarr · Post by **Ingvarr** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:09 pm

I'm in the red pants in the first one. As you can see, most of it is covered. The guys I'm fighting has a plastic BP covered in leather under his surcoat. In the group pic, there is a lot of hiddenness.

Malachiuri · Post by **Malachiuri** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:12 pm

My new HDPE "tummy tamer" body armour I built for Estrella.

If I can hide plastic on my chubby frame, so can anybody =)

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:28 pm

Sir Malachi,

Are you from Sir Ternon's lineage?

Malachiuri · Post by **Malachiuri** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:40 pm

Nope, Im sure not.

He's from my neck of the woods and was a great help to my early fighting career though...

I was squired to Aethelred the Jute in Caid before I moved back the the KC area. Aethelred was squired to William the Silent, who was I believe squired to a tree or something back in about 1792.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:45 pm

Hidden elbows & hidden knees. I don't wear thigh armour usually and have a linen gambeson/vest with a hardened leather plate over my kidneys.

Uric

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:19 pm

Me:
corrazina and faulds.

Wulfgar · Post by **Wulfgar** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:46 pm

My coat and vambrace has Al plates in them.

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:50 pm

2 barrel plastic cuisses covered with black fabric.
3M spray glued
knees from ashcraftbaker attached with rivets

ThorvaldR Skegglauss · Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:15 am

Baroness Dorothea and Sir Ivan of Drachenwald in Crown Tourney April 08. Both are in hidden plastic armour. Baroness Dorothea has a new fighting outfit that more closely resembles Ivan's now but I thought that this would be a great way to show them both.

Thorvaldr

Coenred · Post by **Coenred** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:28 am

Maelgwyn sent me a picture of some particularly well done Saxon outfits, but I can't seem to find it now. If you still have that pic, m'lord, I believe it would add to this discussion.

Coenred

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:23 am

All,

These photos are great, keep them coming.

If you have higher res versions of the same images, or other variations and don't want to post them all, you can email me at: jkostick at gmail dot com

Thanks.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:57 am

Me and the wife...I wear an Egg segmented breastplate.

Swete · Post by **Swete** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:45 am

A while back on the post that started this post (how to be rid of plastic on the field or something) I read about the debate on how to get those who do wear plastic to cover it or wear something over it. A lot of oppinions were offered, varying from banning those who wear it to excluding them from tourneys.
However, some suggested leading by example and showing the others what a good looking covered kit can be like.
This thread has done that, in my oppinion. I have never been more motivated to get my kit better looking and to hide the plastic a more beautific manner as well as more effectively. I thank everyone who has posted these inspiring pics and I hope to post my improved kit soon!

Bastior · Post by **Bastior** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:45 am

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... t=#1164737

the thug trying to hit his king with the bacon halfway down the page is armoured under the wool and mail.

B

Eirik · Post by **Eirik** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:20 pm

MAN... you guys look GREAT!

Nothing like some folks here, but...

I have lacrosse elbows and articulated motocross knees: