New Weapons

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:01 am

My first try making a greatsword and polearm. Looking forward to learning how to use them

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:12 am

Good job! Although I think it looks crappy to wrap the red tape around the quillions of your greatsword.

You can build the tape up above & below the hilt to keep it from moving. To stop twisting, drill a small hole and add a drop of wood glue and put a nail in it. The wood glue helps keep the rattan from wearing out around the hole.

Uric

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:19 am

yeah, wasn't sure what to do about the quillions. The hole was much larger than the rattan, so I got some shims to space it out, but didn't want to glue it in

Boomlaor · Post by **Boomlaor** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:36 am

You can use hot glue and a heat gun to secure quillions to rattan. It flows in nicely and holds securely, and when you want to take off the quillions, just heat it up again and it comes right off.

Skutai · Post by **Skutai** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:36 am

Bjorn inn havi wrote:yeah, wasn't sure what to do about the quillions. The hole was much larger than the rattan, so I got some shims to space it out, but didn't want to glue it in

Shim it with scrap leather then rap tape above and below the quillion to hold it in place.

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 11:41 am

think I got it now, hilt still seems secure, guess will find out more with practice

Heath B fraychef · Post by **Heath B fraychef** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:09 pm

nice but what swith the white phallaces on the floor

HauoctheWild · Post by **HauoctheWild** » Thu May 21, 2009 12:58 pm

AT&T commercial...more bars in more places???

(joking...joking)
Havoc

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 1:24 pm

fraychef wrote:nice but whats with the white phallaces on the floor

ummm....it's part of my house's decor?

Leopold der Wolf · Post by **Leopold der Wolf** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:00 pm

fraychef wrote:nice but what swith the white phallaces on the floor

rofl.

Also, nice weapons.

Ceawlin Alreding · Post by **Ceawlin Alreding** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:34 pm

Did they change the galive construction rules in Atlantia?

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:52 pm

relatively new change, we can have split rattan construction. Was pubished on Nov 2 2008, our marshal's handbook:

p 14
"Laminated or split rattan construction techniques do not require 1⁄2 inch (12.7 mm) of progressive give, so long as their construction imparts striking characteristics similar to an unpadded weapon constructed of a single piece of rattan"

Ceawlin Alreding · Post by **Ceawlin Alreding** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:58 pm

Kewl.
My particular attention to Atlantia's weapons specs is almost a decade out of date.

Heath B fraychef · Post by **Heath B fraychef** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:02 pm

how do you keep the rattan from continuing to split?

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Thu May 21, 2009 9:09 pm

my method...will see if it works, is a purty heafty amount of strapping tape at the joint to keep it from spreading

Hedinn · Post by **Hedinn** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:25 am

fraychef wrote:nice but what swith the white phallaces on the floor

for scale

GodricFW · Post by **GodricFW** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:35 pm

On the split glaive, what did you use or the spacers inside the split?

Vebrand · Post by **Vebrand** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:44 pm

Nice weapons, just hate the whole unpadded and split gliaves but guess they are here to stay :cry:

Vebrand

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Fri May 22, 2009 2:56 pm

GodricFW wrote:On the split glaive, what did you use or the spacers inside the split?

Used a cut off section of rattan. Had an 8 foot pole, so just took a bit off the end as our max polearm length is 7 1/2 feet. after making it, cut the polearm off at 7 feet to allow for the space used for the thrusting points.

On the outside of the blade to pad just a bit, but mostly to protect it a bit longer is a layer of strapping tape (the stuff used to secure cargo)

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Sat May 23, 2009 12:59 am

ok....had huge amounts of fun using polearm and sword last night. Loved them both.

Sword - hilt wasn't firm enough to hold in place and spins a bit, will need to either drill and put in a bolt or add some glue

Polearm - a bit whippy, but it looks like that is the rattan itself as the shaft is pretty whippy, the head not really much more so (I think). Was given a couple suggestions. 1. add one more support block in the head for firmness. 2, wrap the shaft with strapping tape, first one direction, then the other diagonally...or 3...learn to deal with it

Oskar der Drachen · Post by **Oskar der Drachen** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:21 am

fraychef wrote:
nice but what swith the white phallaces on the floor

Hedinn wrote:
for scale

It's sunlight through the venetian blinds on the carpet!

Oskar der Drachen · Post by **Oskar der Drachen** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:25 am

Bjorn inn havi wrote:my method...will see if it works, is a purty heafty amount of strapping tape at the joint to keep it from spreading

There was a good suggestion on another thread about laminated rattan weapons. Drill a small hole at the base of the split you start/end with, and then a heap of strapping tape like you said. It would serve to dead-end the split.

Oskar der Drachen · Post by **Oskar der Drachen** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:38 am

Bjorn inn havi wrote:ok....had huge amounts of fun using polearm and sword last night. Loved them both.

Sword - hilt wasn't firm enough to hold in place and spins a bit, will need to either drill and put in a bolt or add some glue

Polearm - a bit whippy, but it looks like that is the rattan itself as the shaft is pretty whippy, the head not really much more so (I think). Was given a couple suggestions. 1. add one more support block in the head for firmness. 2, wrap the shaft with strapping tape, first one direction, then the other diagonally...or 3...learn to deal with it

How about a small flat place shaved on either side of the pole where the quillions are placed, and then a rattan shim hammered into the place both sides of the quillions. You would have to be careful of the stresses you put on the *inside* of the quillions to avoid splitting the aluminium casting.

When I am building quillions that use a tube that slides onto the pole I use a pin or pins through the tube and rattan. Two methods depending on the permanence of what I am after.

1. A hex head carrriage bolt (wood screw type) so it can be extracted. Drill a hole in one side of the quillions the diameter of the wood-screw, and a much smaller hole in the rattan stave, only a short pilot hole. The screw must be shorter than the diameter of the tube so the screw doesn't contact the other side of the pipe inside diameter. The head of the bolt makes a nice decorative stud on the quillions too. If the rattan pole is one-sided at all it also makes for a good tactile reminder without having to look at the weapon for orientation.

2. Drill a hole in the quillions all the way through the diameter of your pin. Orient the quillions on the pole, adding material (thin leather/glue/wood splints) according to the space left between the surfaceof the wood and the Inside Diameter of the pipe. Clamp everything in place and drill a small diameter pilot hole through the stave. Sharpen the pin, and drive the pin through the quillions and stave so that the sharp end of the pin emerges through the other side of the quillions. Cut off and file smooth both sides and centre punch both sides of the pin so you can find it again and drill out if neccesary to replace the stave.

Both methods have the advantage of widening the stave *inside* the quillion pipe to make the quillion assembly even more firmly placed.

Coenred · Post by **Coenred** » Sat May 23, 2009 4:10 am

Very nice.

Where did you get the sword fittings?

Coenred

Bjorn inn havi · Post by **Bjorn inn havi** » Sat May 23, 2009 7:08 am

got them from Windrose armory. Other than no screw hole, very happy with them

Bjorn