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by Christian Wiedner
Tue Jan 09, 2024 6:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: The "Nurenberg butt armor"
Replies: 36
Views: 24172

Re: The "Nurenberg butt armor"

The butt lames look to be fully extended in the standing position. That is a good point. In my opinion, however, it has to be the opposite. So more or less full compression. To achive this without gaps it would be easier to reverse the direction of the upper lames? Otherwise you have to fight again...
by Christian Wiedner
Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:22 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Making Very Thin Sheet Iron
Replies: 4
Views: 3020

Re: Making Very Thin Sheet Iron

Depends of the size of the sheets, I would say ;-)
Small patches should be (easily) doable.
Was the whole shield covered in one piece?
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:55 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: The "Nurenberg butt armor"
Replies: 36
Views: 24172

Re: The "Nurenberg butt armor"

It looks like you have drawn the flexed state of the front part in the "streched position" of the slots?
Maybe it already helps if you draw it in the compressed state... you could also try to elongate the slots to the bottom side.
by Christian Wiedner
Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:25 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Junkjard

Indianer wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:13 am As it is, the material in the armpit prevents me from pulling it up any further.
So thats probably the answer for the cutout ;-)
by Christian Wiedner
Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Junkjard

Your reference pictures are all A60 and A62 from vienna. There is no Sigismund anymore it is A62 ;-) I have no idea about the function of the cutout in the armpit but if you dont want to try it and alter the pattern anyway you should orientate yourself on 16.c. examples for the upper articulation. 2...
by Christian Wiedner
Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:51 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Junkjard

Christian Wiedner wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:52 amThe open hole is for the internal leather, like the two in the center, filled with rivets. So two lames are correct.
This is of course nonsense, as the rivets for the internal leather are hidden under the previous lame... :oops:
by Christian Wiedner
Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:52 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Junkjard

First off, there are three things which make this arm strange. The first is that the seam is on the lateral surface, rather than being on the medial one. They are usually in line with the armpit... The third thing is that the proximal end of the lateral surface is articulated. While not common, the...
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:31 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Chains and Strips of Mail
Replies: 6
Views: 13405

Re: Chains and Strips of Mail

Solothurn Fechtbuch Cod.S.554_001.jpg
Solothurn Fechtbuch Cod.S.554_015.jpg

and some mail stripes on the gloves
Holbein d. J., Hans, Passionsaltar.jpg
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:06 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Chains and Strips of Mail
Replies: 6
Views: 13405

Re: Chains and Strips of Mail

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Dürer, the battle of the angels, 1498.jpg
7012450 Kreuztragung Christi, 1508-1517, Levoca, Slowakei, Pfarrkirche St. Jakob.jpg
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:05 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Chains and Strips of Mail
Replies: 6
Views: 13405

Re: Chains and Strips of Mail

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Dürer, Paumgartner Altar.jpg
ca. 1500 - 'Mont des Oliviers' (Veit Wagner), Cathédrale, Strasbourg, France2.jpg
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:03 pm
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Chains and Strips of Mail
Replies: 6
Views: 13405

Re: Chains and Strips of Mail

I have several depictions of mail stripes 1001018 Adalbert der Sieghafte, Babenberger-Stammbaum, Part Hans, 1489-1492, Klosterneuburg, Österreich.jpg Aufbruch_nach_Island_Handschriftenabteilung_Hundeshagenscher_Kodex.jpg Werkstatt oder Umkreis Wolfgang Katzheimers d.Ä., Vorderseite- Kalvarienberg; R...
by Christian Wiedner
Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:26 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: New armourers Please show what you are working on.
Replies: 37
Views: 20807

Re: New armourers Please show what you are working on.

I dont think such a much longer weld is worth it...
by Christian Wiedner
Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:53 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rene's blog
Replies: 336
Views: 325218

Re: Rene's blog

Niiiice, those are the true gems!
I wouldnt even think about the time you spent on them...
by Christian Wiedner
Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:48 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Video of the Wallace Puffed-and-Slashed Armour
Replies: 4
Views: 5778

Re: Video of the Wallace Puffed-and-Slashed Armour

There are pictures of the back on the Wallace Collection USB-stick
by Christian Wiedner
Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:37 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Builds

Where do you see next to no wing?
by Christian Wiedner
Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:03 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Björns Junkjard
Replies: 119
Views: 65193

Re: Björns Builds

This one is a repair.
There are several inside shots in Goll
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by Christian Wiedner
Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:09 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The Rotating Rerebrace Why? When? and from Where?
Replies: 6
Views: 6500

Re: The Rotating Rerebrace Why? When? and from Where?

I am not aware of many if any pauldrons connected directly to the arm harness as the wings restrict a rotation of the arm more than spaulders would.
There is another system, maybe even earlier, where they split the rerebrace in two sections connected with the rotation joint.
by Christian Wiedner
Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:45 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rene's blog
Replies: 336
Views: 325218

Re: Rene's blog

The finish is looking very nice. My question would be how well it is holding up, because if I hold a test piece with the entire colour spectrum on a polishing wheel, this grey area is loosing its oxide layer first even before the thinner iridescent layers. This said I had some incident in the harden...
by Christian Wiedner
Sat May 28, 2022 3:27 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Looking to Commission First Armor, Advice Sought
Replies: 12
Views: 4581

Re: Looking to Commission First Armor, Advice Sought

As we are here in the Design and Construction section, show us what you have in mind ;-)
And as Sean pointed out, if you want to use it, start with everything beneath, which is a task of its own.
by Christian Wiedner
Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rene's blog
Replies: 336
Views: 325218

Re: Rene's blog

Ok, and also to the bottom I guess?
by Christian Wiedner
Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:47 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rene's blog
Replies: 336
Views: 325218

Re: Rene's blog

Oh, great!
Please enlight me: are the faulds really as thick as they look or is the upper edge folded a bit inwards?
by Christian Wiedner
Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Mac's blog
Replies: 1141
Views: 919586

Re: Mac's blog

I'm curious why you are doing the edge roll *after* the fleurs. I have been shaping the pieces and edge rolling and then adding the fleurs, because if I muff the edge roll I waste a LOT of work. I *never* irretrievably screw up the fleurs, but I do occasionally mis-strike with the hammer on a roll ...
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling
Replies: 30
Views: 16356

Re: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling

Hi Christian For explanation, I choosed the last picture to show the audience the visible differents in chiseld and ground down lines and cuted lines ;-) Well, you may have a point - but only in pointing out different approaches which may lead to a similar results... As written before, I dont think...
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:35 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling
Replies: 30
Views: 16356

Re: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling

Rene: I still do not agree with the cutting wheel methode... But of course I agree there have been several ways to achive the results. It is most likely they used different tools - for example for the one side groove and the double side groove. And as your last picture shows obviously different chis...
by Christian Wiedner
Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:02 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling
Replies: 30
Views: 16356

Re: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling

As it is 16th century I am afraid there is no Goll...
Here is the official link: https://www.khm.at/en/objectdb/detail/372240/
by Christian Wiedner
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:01 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling
Replies: 30
Views: 16356

Re: Maximillian Fluting by Hammered Tooling

True, but if you look at the other child harness next to it this one also has almost no engraved lines but mostly everything etched...
Nevertheless I agree with you that this is most probably not the method they used back then.
by Christian Wiedner
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:01 am
Forum: Interpretive Re-creation
Topic: German soldier 1450-60, a project
Replies: 21
Views: 5128

Re: German soldier 1450-60, a project

Note: Every piece of armour on the Karlsruhe Passion looks like that, so it may as well be not blued but just the way the armour is portrayed. Well, that is not exactly true... there are variations (central weird helmet) also dont look only at the armour but to all metal objects. For the general va...
by Christian Wiedner
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:36 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Rene's blog
Replies: 336
Views: 325218

Re: Rene's blog

Nice! Did you do some show-working there or was it just for display?
by Christian Wiedner
Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:49 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: The Panzer Problem
Replies: 17
Views: 3099

Re: The Panzer Problem

Krebs is the breast plate not the cuisses.
by Christian Wiedner
Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:01 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Mac's blog
Replies: 1141
Views: 919586

Re: Mac's blog

I guess Rene is right. To me it looks like one piece too and the little dots are the rivets (shafts/holes?)
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by Christian Wiedner
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:18 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Trying to make a gothic breastplate
Replies: 15
Views: 3768

Re: Trying to make a gothic breastplate

Oh, I didnt read Scotts answer before, so yes basically what he says.
@Scott: I refered to the 3,4, and 5 pic in this thread where the arm cutouts of the paper template are to high
by Christian Wiedner
Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:39 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Trying to make a gothic breastplate
Replies: 15
Views: 3768

Re: Trying to make a gothic breastplate

The size of the upper plate is almost the size of the entire plate ;-)
There are (earlier) examples where this is the case but not nessecary as it is much more work.
You need more volume and more angle. This probably means the arm cutouts are to deep.
by Christian Wiedner
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:42 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Trying to make a gothic breastplate
Replies: 15
Views: 3768

Re: Trying to make a gothic breastplate

What Gordon said (in his first post). There is not much sense in making a one piece pattern since the two piece pattern will look different. On this pattern: - the arm openings could be cut lower under the arms and be a bit bigger but should be straightened a tiny little bit at shoulder level. - the...
by Christian Wiedner
Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:15 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Workshop temperature vs cold dishing
Replies: 154
Views: 60954

Re: Workshop temperature vs cold dishing

Just put some additional lames to the cut out like on A60 and A62 in vienna.
As Johann stated there is almost always an example ;-)
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by Christian Wiedner
Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:19 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Workshop temperature vs cold dishing
Replies: 154
Views: 60954

Re: Workshop temperature vs cold dishing

Nice! Yea in the front view the rerebrace is really cut out to high. For the legs. The main plate could have been higher, but I think they are ok the way they are. If you want you can add one or even two lames. It may happen that you have to cut a bit of the inside of the thighs if you get in confli...