The Armour Archive

Gustovic

Armets were used a lot, a lot, in jousting in Italy. With or without wrappers. In joust of war and joust of peace. Lots of reproductions don't have the same thickness in the visor, which would make it way less elastic, and have incorrect, too small or absent rolls at the vision slit, making the elas...

Gustovic

It seems like between about 1400 and 1430, there was a widespread belief that the bascinet with camail was not providing good enough protection to the throat, and experiments with alternatives. I wonder what drove that development. Was there a war erupting with a grand opening battle and sudden use...

Gustovic

The earliest I've found is from 1386, Switzerland.

https://effigiesandbrasses.com/1087/3399#image

Gustovic

Nope, didn't sell.

It's not back at the castle, that' for sure.

Probably it's in some storage box in Florence or Milan ready to be "lost"...

Gustovic

Holding riding boots makes much more sense than a leg harness. A single point on woolen hosen is begging to be ripped, if it's used to hold armour up.

Gustovic

Turning upper cannons were used already in the late XIVth century. Yes, maybe they weren't joined together metal-to-metal like the XVIth century ones, but the concept existed at least since the late 1380's. https://i.imgur.com/C3QlAhg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zmWVugu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/52r1Kxe.j...

Gustovic

Yes, apprentices with tongs.

And temporary riveting.

Gustovic

Like others have said, that statue most likely dates to 1430 or so.

1390-1400 is way too early for that style of armour.

Gustovic

They are from the Museo Diocesiano in Mantova, Italy.

Gustovic

I'd translate the item as "1 polished iron breastplate with brass rivets and borders all around, with a stoprib"

The "aresto" could also be a stoprib.

Since Datini uses that word in combination with vambraces as well.

Gustovic

tiredWeasel wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:22 pm Wouldn't a deep blue not be around 550°F/290°C? (IIRC the helmet is made of C45)

Helmet is mild steel, actually =).

Gustovic

Isak Krogh.

You can find him on facebook, here https://www.facebook.com/isakkroghhantverk.

If you ask him he'll be happy to help you with a couple of tips. You'll just have to be patient until he replies, he's usually a tad slow with that =).

Gustovic

Yes they do include 160 pounds.

Does't mean that it was the standard for XVth century English archers. On a ship. Where you don't have to march for weeks on end. The king's flagship.

Gustovic

I think this is the video where he stoots at "long range".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvIzvUYdeKY&t=1s

Gustovic

He also measured once after 100 merers I think, and Tod was puzzled but the fact that the lighter arrows kept more energy than the heavier ones. Which can be explained by the lack of archer's paradox caused by how efficiently the arrows are launched by the crossbow. I'm not sure I follow you here. ...

Gustovic

Here's the article. https://www.academia.edu/5557056/What_does_the_Archaeological_Evidence_of_the_Mary_Rose_Reveal_about_the_Archer_and_Practice_of_Archery_and_how_will_the_Mary_Rose_Trust_Interpret_this_Evidence_for_its_Visitors_in_the_New_Museum And here's their estimated weights. https://i.imgur....

Gustovic

The problem is that the velocity has been measured at the beginning, as soon as the arrow leaves the crossbow. So no account for the loss of enerby due to the arrow wobbling around. Also 15 meters is veeeeeery close, and the very last shot an archer would loose before retreating behind the line of m...

Gustovic

His lockdown longbow tests are all flawed, in my opinion. First of all 160 lbs of draweight is nowhere near representative of even the Mary Rose bows. 120-130 seems the much more common poundage. Also it looks like his crossbow is much more efficient than Joe Gibb's longbow, having much less acher's...

Gustovic

I haven't found any conclusive evidence on blackened armour in Italy in the XVth century. There are examples of black coloured armours alongside silver ones, but now I believe that that's just a way of showing a normal satin finish (black armour) with mirror polish (the silver armour), since all the...

Gustovic

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrea_ca ... 074732143/

and

Gustovic

I'd like to think what we're seeing is an early experiment with attaching the spaulders to the cuirass, instead of pointing them through the mail and onto the aketon beneath. From an evolutionary standpoint, this would be a stepping stone from pointing, to the keyed pin we see on later harnesses fo...

Gustovic

Cool project!

But remember that the visor doesn't really fit the skull. To me it seems that the visor needs to be pulled down a few millimeters at least.

Gustovic

Ah cool!

How on earth did Boccia miss that?

Maybe he didn't have enough time to play around with it and figuring that that's a cullet and not a fauld.....

Gustovic

Avant armour from Glasgow. 26.3 kg sans the missing tassets, right pauldron reinforce and mail. Up to 4 mm on the center front of the breastplate. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50090494562_256e3330af_o.jpg B1 from Mantova. 22.8 kg sans the missing gauntlets, tassets, back fauld and mail. https...

Gustovic

i try to avoid angle grinders like the plague when working on armour surfaces. They leave unmistakable circular patterns and don't even out the surface of armour and just make more dimples. So far on the helm i've only used files and a rectangular section stick with sand paper on and a polishing whe...

Gustovic

1) The helm has been designed to be worn alone. So no skullcap or bascinet underneath. Just a tall mail collar worn on the neck. 2) No offense at all =). That's why i call it experimenting. i'll go back and perhaps eliminate some of the scratches with the pre polishing wheel. interestingly though th...

Gustovic

Indianer wrote:
Gustovic wrote:The helm on the right is just sanded to a 800 grit while the one on the right

Got me!

Edited.

Gustovic

it's been a while and almost everyone now is on facebook or other social media so i haven't been updating this thread much. But i figured i'd update it a bit just for posterity's sake. So i've made a bit more progress on my own helm. The engraved brass band that is supposed to go on the lower edge s...

Gustovic

Gustovic

Hi everyone: Sean: I just spent 2 hours tearing the gambeson apart, so I can rebuild the torso, neck and arm hole fit. Will get pics and post once I get it back together. Gustovic: Your gambeson looks fantastic. It looks right on you and I am jealous as my body is a barrel shape and will never look...

Gustovic

Looks good so far. But make sure that your waist is properly tightened up and your guts displaced upwards. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50043733992_fae93c1b4c_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50043734152_8e80ce211e_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50043734267_4d5e87b91a_c.jp...

Gustovic

Welcome!!

Looking forward for your progress!! You definitely are much more advanced than other people starting up on this forum! At least more than I was =).

Gustovic

Oh, there they are!!! Those look fantastic. Seriously, that's the kind of stuff we need =). The bascinet bucket looks very promising. And I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to shave off a couple of hours more just by getting more experienced with the hammer or switching to a harder hitting die. ...

Gustovic

Oh, I didn't know that.

The shanks are all mild steel, but I see your concern.

I'll see if I can grind off the taper and use a wedge instead at some point in the future

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Gustovic

Btw, what was the initial weight of the blanks and how much do they weight now?

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