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by Indianer
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Sooo...instead of a dishing form you supported the "fold" between body and roll and hit on air? Wasn't that wobbly af?

And thank You for the pics and keeping us in the loop!
by Indianer
Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:11 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Buffer Buying-Advice
Replies: 6
Views: 845

Re: Buffer Buying-Advice

Hello Folks! I want to polish armor, deburr sheets, rough-grind forged blades. I may have finally found a simple, heavy buffer like that Baldor machine that i have been using as reference. This is it. 2PS, 10'' Wheel, 2850rpm, 50 pounds, 230V (German grit). Sounds all nice. Might be able to attach t...
by Indianer
Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:27 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?
Replies: 20
Views: 1230

Re: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?

Our Chinese knock-offs have abysmal customer feedback, not worth the headache. I haven't found a worthy equivalent to Whitney 5.
by Indianer
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/cd/ed/29cded7e5edcc48083ac598ca9aa51f4.jpg Your plan is to start rolling an innie right here? Maybe a small dedicated stake would be useful, like a small- diameter 45° pipe elbow. Walls prolly too thin, I'd just grind one from bar stock and weld onto a sq bar handl...
by Indianer
Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

I mean there remains the option burn out the copper wire... Thank you kindly for the elaboration. I recall some of it, didn't have to really come to terms with it before. I can only hope and wait that you get the process down. You will, and when you do - hopefully you'll find the time to make it gra...
by Indianer
Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Mmmmh. I see. In that case all I can say is sorry for clogging your thread. Now... why do you need the inside roll again? Where's the advantage? I never noted anything on that...
by Indianer
Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:23 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

There is a dubé Video out there on YT. There is no trick to it. Forehead. Last bit of advice I have is to start there, watch him do it. Maybe you find what's been going wrong. Hope it helps..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNydQauCgE
by Indianer
Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Mark II https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/cd/ed/29cded7e5edcc48083ac598ca9aa51f4.jpg Brother, it just Struck me... you can't just turn it outwards like that. You have to stretch it with a straight peen. Did u do that? You nick the line where the roll starts, bend out just a few degrees, then you st...
by Indianer
Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:57 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Sooo... are we still talking about the roll you have sketched in your OP? That one doesn't appear inordinately large so as to give you this much trouble. This is from someone who still didn't manage to get access to one of the 3 empty garages in his backyard. Other point, you just described a proces...
by Indianer
Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Thank You for clearing that up Wade! I have certainly put a roll on a straight piece and then curled it up, just not quite exactly the way you described. That's what I would do as well. I tried here to find a way around that however since RWWT wishes to avoid stretching and flattening the roll. I ne...
by Indianer
Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:51 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Wierd thought... what happens if you turn an inwards roll on a straight piece and only then curl it up keeping the roll inwards... does the roll magically turn outwards where it is needed, all without thinning? [Now why would I ask sth stupid like that... simple. Someone here once wrote sth that I i...
by Indianer
Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:46 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets
Replies: 7
Views: 837

Re: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets

Hello Wade, and thanks for the input! Yes, A-227 shows it nicely. I just didn't know what I was looking for earlier, hence the long and complex deliberation with ChatGPT. A-213 is there yes, but the trick-shots you took for me, linked above, are not on the gauntlet page. They are only accessible wit...
by Indianer
Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:04 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What rivets do you use and where do you buy them?
Replies: 4
Views: 444

Re: What rivets do you use and where do you buy them?

3mm (1/8") shaft diameter, although most rivets throught plates won't be much longer than that either. But: Put the rivet through your pieces, then you just clip where needed case by case. Don't fixate on a length before. Unless you can custom-order a few hundred...then...thin ice. Someone else need...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

Soo...earlier reproduction here on the board did just that. Hemmed first, curled later. People did put a copper wire in the roll so it doesn't flatten in the process. Seemed to work...And the nice roping, wouldn't you do that to the peoce once it's pretty much finished anyway? Meaning hem, curl, th...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring
Replies: 52
Views: 2265

Re: Need Help: 16th Century Gorget Top Ring

D) Form the roll from a flat, straight piece and deal with the curl later. I had previously rejected this approach, due to the hollow, roped edge. I intend to stuff some wire in it, since that would be consistent with how things were done on the helmet I hope to get to, however, the "flat, then bea...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:58 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Pewter Block - that one ok?
Replies: 4
Views: 470

Re: Pewter Block - that one ok?

And here they are. My precious... IMG-20240227-WA0009.jpeg I wanna cast a larger round plate like Yumanov uses (video in original post). On YouTube someone guessed his one was lead, pewter would be too soft to form lames on. I hit a block a few times with a ball peen and it didn't care. I didn't hit...
by Indianer
Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?
Replies: 20
Views: 1230

Re: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?

Would anyone know the German counterpart to a Whitney punch?
by Indianer
Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:30 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What rivets do you use and where do you buy them?
Replies: 4
Views: 444

Re: What rivets do you use and where do you buy them?

Shaft. Stick with 3mm (1/8"). 4mm is not used in armor. Use weak iron where you can, you want to rivet to break and not the armor. Most people use **carpet tacks for finger articulation (nice flat heads) and **3,2mm roofing nails for everything else, especially for connecting leather to plate becaus...
by Indianer
Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:26 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?
Replies: 20
Views: 1230

Re: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?

Oh, when still bits wear down they get off- center. It is the off- center bit that starts wandering. Find a way to sharpen them yourself.

Expensive bits are often enough hssg. Don't trust vendors blindly.
by Indianer
Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:04 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?
Replies: 20
Views: 1230

Re: What do you use to punch holes in your plates?

The secret to drills is getting the right bits and those in good quality. Use HSSE with golden coating, or bare as HSSE rarely comes coated. Black coating is usually applied to HSS-R, which are...not made to last. It's the cheap solution for the home improvement guy. MicDrop.
by Indianer
Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Pewter Block - that one ok?
Replies: 4
Views: 470

Pewter Block - that one ok?

Hey folks, I have been looking for a nice pewter block for a long time. Like the one Mac uses, like the one Yumanov uses. Ok, I may have called it "lead block" here and there. Stupid....cause lead is kind of a health concern. But anyway, I found this on Ebay. Vendor writes it's been molten down from...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Which piece of armor is the best for beginners to start out with?
Replies: 14
Views: 964

Re: Which piece of armor is the best for beginners to start out with?

What steel grade is it? Do you have an oxy/propane or oxy/acetylene rig set up and working? It is 16 gauge. No rig set up. Planning to cold work it for now. It's in my basement and don't want to set the house on fire. Alright, but have a look here - until you know whats a 1050 and what is normalizi...
by Indianer
Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:40 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Which piece of armor is the best for beginners to start out with?
Replies: 14
Views: 964

Re: Which piece of armor is the best for beginners to start out with?

What steel grade is it? Do you have an oxy/propane or oxy/acetylene rig set up and working?
by Indianer
Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:05 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angle through Knee Articulation
Replies: 8
Views: 1090

Re: Angle through Knee Articulation

Mac, I got to watching your presentation here - at 20:50 what you are saying is, upper knee lames should grip the belly of the Vastus medialis – they get a slight dish across the medial edge. Did I interpret that right?
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Vastus Medialis Muscle.jpg


Much obliged!
by Indianer
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:49 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Where to find a tree stump?
Replies: 7
Views: 549

Re: Where to find a tree stump?

Once you get it, make sure to seal the open cut edges with wood glue. Place it on a clean concrete slate. This helps prevent cracking.
by Indianer
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Where to find a tree stump?
Replies: 7
Views: 549

Re: Where to find a tree stump?

Call your local forest administration on the lowest levels. Here we have foresters. They designate areas of the forest for trade and single out trees that need felling for reason of wind damage or parasite contagion. Hunters can point you to them as well. Getting a tree singled out from them is easy...
by Indianer
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:10 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets
Replies: 7
Views: 837

Re: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets

Thank You Kristoffer, really. Now that I have confirmed what I am looking for it'll be much more straight forward to find that pattern in Golls refs. Although I expect the sliders will obfuscate most of it.

Thank you man. Have a good day!
by Indianer
Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets
Replies: 7
Views: 837

Re: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets

So, I've had a veeeery long session with ChatGPT. It resulted in a small epiphany. A few facts: 1 - Leg Armor 1a. When I bend my lower leg back (=flex it) it does not swing on a plane that will superimpose its axis with the femur. Instead, it swings sligthly outwards/to lateral as well. 1b. The slan...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:05 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: The "Nurenberg butt armor"
Replies: 36
Views: 25612

Re: The "Nurenberg butt armor"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHdBl8Vs2bAOQCSMuPlTRiFbWHoFcMYPkugufgw3VQJx5b52RXw9UA2gsCFhCKzIoKTIr0ppyQYP-2_U2Z4Mt_64IknTCliVK_MEIu-1kwZIBxZLKTPKPpWEM0w97HbEMy_fTZ_rN25fEDvQycKx1u7LGw=w1080-h726-s-no?authuser=0 Third one: Would you replicate this left/bottom view for me, just with the t...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:55 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: The "Nurenberg butt armor"
Replies: 36
Views: 25612

Re: The "Nurenberg butt armor"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ADCreHf6NI94wMm2zztF4TGlfoi-zTEd0PsYgN4V6Vu0QOS4ahYkZqr3lrQI4IkitCHNoeIzmNx5AuUIzgirh9yCyRgv-f7Tkcv_qxcIvqFD7xJmu6t_LIUC_l1X0R7k2vfQ-Mcpz7CnZaHY9O1UTPGtZoMvUA=w581-h775-s-no?authuser=0 Mac, I am late to this. I have a big request that would give me big value: an...
by Indianer
Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets
Replies: 7
Views: 837

Angular Lame installation in Gothic Gauntlets

Dear All, I have been reading old threads for a project on knees and found a curious entry: Getting back to what James said about the difference in spacing of the rivets of the inside vs outside of the leg.. This picture shows why there is a curve happening between the greave and cuisse: http://www....
by Indianer
Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:22 am
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angle through Knee Articulation
Replies: 8
Views: 1090

Re: Angle through Knee Articulation

° I see the second lame (where present) and the cop frequently continuing the slanted-to-axis trend. If the knee is to be closely fitted, the entire assembly needs to be slightly convex on the medial side and slightly concave on the lateral side. Installing lames in a slanted position has the effec...
by Indianer
Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angle through Knee Articulation
Replies: 8
Views: 1090

Re: Angle through Knee Articulation

Now...I think there is something else going on with the cops. Something I can not put my finger on... some of them seem to be distorted. Not symmetrical. Like when the left and right edge were laid out straight down, the center crease would still run top-bottom towards the wing. And this is posing ...
by Indianer
Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
Topic: Angle through Knee Articulation
Replies: 8
Views: 1090

Angle through Knee Articulation

Hello guys, I'm back at knees. It has been established that a leg is not straight, and leg armor needs to follow that curve. Leg Curve.jpg I have been looking at originals for hours. I need someone to help me see.. ° I see top lames freuently sticking out farther than bottom ones, those could be com...
by Indianer
Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: Historical Research
Topic: Goslarer Zwinger Museum
Replies: 0
Views: 816

Goslarer Zwinger Museum

Hi guys, the old round tower in Goslar, Germany, has a small museum upstairs . It is of little renown so most of you guys might not ever have seen what's in it. Can't claim those chestpieces are genuine. Nor can I deny it. Follow the link and remember to turn off the adblocker if the tour doesn't st...