The Armour Archive

Norman

Mail not an option - don't want him having to deal with explaining at metal detectors. Kevlar - I keep hitting mixed information for that matter -- all the commercial stuff - I can't find any reviews and don't know what online stores are trustworthy etc. If anyone has personal experiences -- I'd lov...

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son going to Israel for summer. With all the stabbing terrorist attacks, I thought I would make him a light puncture resistant coat of plates. But I have only worked in "period materials" in the past. So -- please suggest regarding a plastic to use and where to order it and how to work it. Time sens...

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His book in English is called "Book of Precious Records" according to the Wiki. The Russian name is "Dorogiye Tzenosti" which I would have maybe translated as "Precious Treasures" No idea what the Persian name is. Here is the Russian text of the part concerning the Rus http://www.adfontes.veles.lv/a...

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OK, I still cannot find helms for them. I ordered the osprey books. This is for a BOTN kit, and they really check documentation. Rus, Byzantine, V guard, its all OK, I want the splints and lamellar most, then I need a helm that can cover my face (probably with maille, but that is OK, too). The most...

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Splinted defenses were found in early Scandinavian context (I think it was Valsgarde) - pre-Viking / pre-Norman
and illustrated on East European artifacts of roughly the same time (Avar or Khazar).
Putting them on a Norman would be extreme speculation.

Norman

Russ Mitchell wrote:"Motion to dismiss."

With financial penalties for a frivolous lawsuit.

. . .

And I thought Americans were litigious.

Norman

If you can't find a set, you can make your own. That's what Kirby had to do from memory after his set was stolen shortly after we moved from the Mine to our present place 30 years ago. Most of the shop equipment was packed onto a long open trailer and the shears were set in a barrel. When we came b...

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Hi Ruel Too bad I didn't see this thread when it came up. Name is Norman J Finkelshteyn by the way. Love your armour! But if I saw you on the street, I'd assume 14 - 15 cent Persian. I think a Yushman would have been the right way to go for Crimea 16-17th cent. I think the fact that they kept the fa...

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Ha! I found a reconstruction of the hat you want. http://www.tgorod.ru/russia/shapka/shapka.jpg In this conversation http://www.tforum.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=7831 It seems like the agreement is that any theory about construction is just theory. One other proposal (and this seems to be how th...

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This has the pattern of the boy's hat from the 7th century find. I may be misremembering - but it could be layered linnen and leather http://olisavka.users.photofile.ru/photo/olisavka/2732495/xlarge/53024098.jpg There is probably more about it including possibly photos Alas this person has waaay too...

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Its a round cap with a fur brim. Plenty of Russian medieval theme movies where you can get the details on making one. As you say - the earliest images are 14th cent. I have no reason to think they didn't have these earlier -- but no real proof to hand either. ... Um I may be wrong One of the pagan "...

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Hey, What would a good Scandinavian Rus boy be wearing in the summer to cover his balding head in warm & very sunny climes in the 9th century around the southern Black Sea? Look for my old thread about Persian / Turkic hoods (found them for you - both basicaly amount to the same thing) http://forum...

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all the usual questions apply, Where do you want ot be in 1985? :) New York City, Manhattan. Mid-central park or below. The same person in the same mood as would play "Princes of the Universe" in '86 or later would play what in '85? I was thinking "We are the champions" - but I honestly just don't ...

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Mac wrote:I'm OK with the word "epaulettes".

Which is kinda funny if you think about it being as Epaulettes is the anglicised version of the french
Epaulieres - for which Spaulders is just another anglicisation.

Norman

Hi Sorry I got sidetracked. In a quick summary -- it looks to me like the identification of this thing as a shoulder decoration was well established for the past hundred years at least and is (together with the name Armilla) the current classification at the Louvre. Monsiuer Duran describes it this ...

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If I am in Spring of 1985 what would I have in my Walkman instead of "Princes of the Universe" and "Who wants to live forever?" ? Those two came out a year too late and I need substitutes that are as close as possible. Queen would be ideal but not required. But mood and type of music need to match :...

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Two wheeled coveyance with pavilion on top with open drape. Note that the drape starts below the triangle and goes to the bottom -- ie: the pavilion or yurt as on a platform rather than a wagon. polov_vezh.jpg This following may be four wheeled or two wheels shown in odd perspective Compare this sec...

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also there may be 4 wheels one overlapping the other I see this as an attempt to illustrate several wagons in perspective with the illustrator taking a shortcut (I believe this is a greatly enlarged image here - in the manuscript it was much smaller) I have always read these as two wheeled wagons c...

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Your auto-translator is hillarious. I have no time today. Promise to translate soon. For now - lets just say its mostly giberish. Do you have anything other than the wikipedia article for the definition of Armilla. Both the Russians and the fella from the Louvre use it in conjunction with the term f...

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Hey Thanks for the mental workout! When I put this up, I came upon the wikipedia entry by accident and just kinda thought "Wow cool shoulder defense! Must share with Archive" Now I'm actualy asked to think. The terminology - "Naplechnik" literaly means "thing on the shoulder" and is normaly used to ...

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Your translator don't understand armour terms. Naplechniki = Spaulders Mac - :?: Why not shoulder? Not quite enough dishing for your taste? But where else would they sit? Yes -- they are parade items. Here found an English page for the exhibit of the Louvre piece in Russia http://www.svyatayarus.ru/...

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Gilded Bronze Spaulders decorated with enamel Believed to have been a gift from Friederich Barbarosa to Andrei Bogolubski Currently, the Crucifixion Spaulder is at the German National Museum in Neurenberg the Resurection Spaulder is at the Louvre http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BB...

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Ooh A mini research project Couldn't read the text on the illustration so I looked around. It seems to be mislabeled From what I can tell, it represents the murder of Prince Andrei Bogolubskiy by the Sons of Kuchko (Kuchkovichi). Kuchko was the founder of Moscow These guys are all Russian and are al...

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I think the nasal/occular is what is shown on the Becket image ... I have seen some info on this reconstruction over the years and I am just not sold on that thing being an ocular yet. It negates almost all the concept behind an occular (you know, to offer SOME protection for the eyes) A Rose by an...

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Cumanus' byname comes from Cumae, which was a city in the Campania region of Italy. I found that information in this edition of Flavius Josephus on Google Books ... Ursula Georges. Thank you. I gotta get around to buying a set of Josephus. What kind of Jewish history buff does not have Josephus ? :...

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Occular helmets are found in Russia in 12th-13th century period. 12-13th century Russia is not 11th century Anglo-Norman England. But together with the Becket images I think it flows into a set of continuing styles. there are illuminations of the death of St. Thomas Becket (who was killed in 1170) ...

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Respectfully -- Danse Macabre is the opposite of what is wanted - it is the mortals dancing towards the grave. Buster gave a great example I'd love to follow up on. Also take a look for "Greatful Dead" stories. The hero buries a corpse by the road or he is the only attendant at an empty funeral, he ...

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If this works
Here is the topic I posted the photo of the Khazar house.
Its pretty low res - all I have.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=86576&hilit=khazar+house
Note the sort of "mud room" addition in front of the round house.

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Hmmmm, work is slow so I was stretching my google foo Check out the "small tents that were used for hunting excursions, war campaigns, caravans, etc." at http://www.ernak-horde.com/Nomad_tents.html Cool stuff But no dates or places in there Doesn't do you any good if the design was used on the far ...

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According to Ibn Fadlan, the Rus chopped down trees and built longhouses as soon as they landed in even the most temporary situation. The Russian bilynas (epic poems) talk about the Polyane/ Bogatiri knights setting up tents. These were I think Turkified Russians - riding horses on the steppes. Of c...

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Reading some Jewish history, I came upon Ventidius Cumanus - Roman procurator of Iudaea Province from AD 48 to c. AD 52. The name flagged my other interest - Turkic peoples. The Cumans or Kipchaks or Polovtzi were the principle Turkic confederation in Eastern/Central Europe from give or take 11th ce...

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I am going thru some old stuff I had archived away that was sent to me by a fellow in Russia many years ago (I dont even remember who at this point) Most of it I can not read but alot of it is pics from Museums in Russia. I'd be happy to read your stuff :) I'll say upfront that I have no time to tr...

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The occulars make the helmet unusable for 11th century anglo-norman; I don't think even the Danes were using occulars by that period. You can never go wrong with a spangen nasal. As for what type of shield goes with the helmet, you're pretty much locked-in to a round centergrip. Thanks Glen, I fear...

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