The Armour Archive

Erik Schmidt

Wonderful work Jiri!!!!!!! I love the overall shape, and the top edge is well executed indeed. The hand cut rivets add to the look of authenticity. I agree with Enrico and Jeffrey above, that the date is most likely a little later. From central European effigies, it seems that the style may have bee...

Erik Schmidt

How are you getting from Croatia to Germany? If by train, then you could possibly go via Graz (armoury, 15th - 17th c.) and Vienna (Armour museum and city museum, lots of stuff) in Austria. In the Nuremberg area you could also check out the small armour collection in Munich. The one in Nuremberg is ...

Erik Schmidt

Heinrich, what exactly is a bounty hunter? What does a modern bounty hunter do and what do you envisage a MA bounty hunter would do? In the case of mercenaries, they were common in the early 14th century. Anything from heavily armoured mounted troops through to lightly armoured archers and foot were...

Erik Schmidt

Corazzina, as you said, is an italian term, and as I know this term is used only for a kind of coat of plates with front opening and (i think) relatively big plates over the breast area. The term Corazzina is sometime used for some very late breast protection of white armour but always with a front...

Erik Schmidt

'the German distinguishes the Plattenrock and the Spangenharnisch.' What is the qualifier between the two? Is Lentnerharnisch the same as Spangenharnisch (segmented/pieced harness?)? Lentnerharnisch refers to the Coat of Plates with a tightly fitting covering/overgarment. The Spangenharnisch specif...

Erik Schmidt

Actually, I do not think the torsos on effigies have been too terribly "stretched". If you actually measure them, you will see they sometimes are. The Stapleton effigy referred to above is one example. If assumed to be my height, this effigy would have a torso that is 10cm longer than mine and legs...

Erik Schmidt

Here is the city museum we have the top part of a COP plate that seems to have been like this, a larger one piece upper chest plate that was one pieced. Interesting! I hadn't heard of that extant piece. I wonder if Doug knows about it? The two I looked at were Miles Stspleton (c. 1364) and the fall...

Erik Schmidt

I have made the torso protection but am trying to figure out faulds. Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? Which style of CoP have you copied for the torso? Many of the effigies from the mid 14th show COP's with rivets at the bottom. Which may indicate that the lower plate was riveted to th...

Erik Schmidt

Also spelles Hus or Husz. He died 1344.

The effigy is missing it's legs from the knees. Thighs show gamboised cuisses. Formerly from a convent in Issenheim, just south of Colmar.

There are photos on the Bildindex.de website.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Now that Doug mentioned gold, it reminded me how common it seems to have been to guild or silver coat parts of the armour, such as the vervelles or rivets. In the case of a coat of plates, having the rivet heads gilded would look great, with a cover of high quality silk naturally. You could get your...

Erik Schmidt

Brass borders on visors, limb armour and breastplate can be found on extant pieces from the Churburg castle armoury in Italy. This is also commonly represented on English effigies. Effigies also often show a decorated, possibly brass, cover to the vervelles, being especially common in England. Fancy...

Erik Schmidt

ethnicly East European Get that concept out of your head. There is no such thing. Start by doing some reading on general history as it relates to that part of Europe. This will give you a clearer picture. It's been a while since I have looked at my material relating to Silesia, so I can't give you ...

Erik Schmidt

It seems that few people know very much about 14th century Silesia. The language barrier, and years of communism, have seen to hat.

You unfortunately stifled discussion in your original thread by not responding to anything said by those who did respond.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Johan S. Moen wrote:Technically, I would pronunce the name Gerolsteiner as "Grolschtoana". :p

Ja, das klingt schon sehr NiederÃ¶sterreichisch

Erik Schmidt

The word need not necessarily be spelled incorrectly, it seems to me like it is rather some sort of dialect variety. In some German and Austrian dialects, I could see the word being spelled and pronunced Gerolstein, while in others Gerolstain might be more appropriate(like in the horrible Styrian/V...

Erik Schmidt

I did a quick search of the web. Here is what I came up with. The place is first documented in connection with the building of the "LÃ¶wenburg" in the year 1115. Seems to have been called 'Burg Gerhardstein' in the document. Gerolstein is given "Stadtrechte" in 1337. In 1691 the town is almost compl...

Erik Schmidt

Polish armourer Thorkil is currently making for me a copy of the fluted bascinet of Sir John d'Abernon d.1327. ......... Almost finished, just an ornate brass cross to add across the blunted spike on the dome and of course the brass rivets running along the bottom edge of the helm. Great to see thi...

Erik Schmidt

I don't know how they were attached.
The reason some are obviously a seperate piece is that they only cover the front. This would allow them to have been attached to the cloth below, to the waist belt (which had then come into fashion) or to the bottom of the breastplate.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Excellent information Benoit, thank you for posting it. Gregoire, the skirt of mail was indeed sometimes a separate piece, which is the case closer to 1400, although in the period of the coat of plates there seems to be no evidence to let us know if it was the bottom of the mail shirt or a separate ...

Erik Schmidt

Voiders are defined mostly as the patches of mail sewn to the 'arming doublet' in gaps, so the term probably can't really be used for seperate sleeves. I have looked into this to a certain extent already, and have at this stage not been able to come up with any real evidence for them in the 14th cen...

Erik Schmidt

WOW!!!! Thankyou for posting that Ivo. I notice that the website mentions that the rivets have a 3mm gap between plate and rivet head on the outside, and the author actually states that this indicates that the plates were attached to the inside of a covering, leaving only the rivets visible. So the ...

Erik Schmidt

When I last saw it in August it did :) You lucky man!! About the restorations to the bamberger choirstalls; having seen them I think that the figures on the stalls are original and have not been mutilated during the 'restoration'. I did not notice any 'repairs' to the figures and their style seems ...

Erik Schmidt

In fact, there Ã¡re three figures in the Choir Stalls at the Bamberger Dom. Excellent!!! Thanks for clearing that up for me Bertus. I thought there might be a third one, as I didn't think Hefner-Alteneck could get something so wrong, but all the sources I had only ever mentioned the two. Do you kno...

Erik Schmidt

Wulfram, The depiction of the figure in the middle of the second photo should be treated with some caution, although there seems to be no technical errors. I have only come across this depiction once before, in a German catalogue by Hefner-Alteneck, publishced in 1890. Your source may have copied it...

Erik Schmidt

Great pics Elden, thanks.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

I don't recall any period image/artwork which shows the back of such a greave. We know that the splints went round the back of the leg a bit further than the sides from German effigies, but as to what happens around the back I think is a mystery.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Send me a copy and I can have a look at the armour for you.

You said mid 14th century, but what part of Europe?

Erik
ekschmidt@hotmail.com

Erik Schmidt

I came across this helmet being sold by a German merchant. Outside of my time period of interest, but I thought someone may find the photo of interest.

From this site;
http://www.alte-waffen.com/Seite_4x.html

[img]http://www.alte-waffen.com/IMAG0059.JPG[/img]

Erik

Erik Schmidt

Hey Sean, No everyone check the forums every day, so it's good to 'bump'. :D Yes, the helm is on display in the "Hofjagt und RÃ¼stkammer Museum" (Courtly Hunt and Armoury Museum) in the Hofburg in Vienna, which also houses the Ethnographical museum and both are part of the Kunsthistorisches Museum (...

Erik Schmidt

The body seems to be made out of solid flat rings joined by round-wire rings (Smaller ID on the flat ones, larger on the wire ones.) Exactly. The arms are all round wire links.... No, this is not the case. The photos show the same style of alternating rings on the arms as on the body. The documenta...

Erik Schmidt

Great photos. Thank you for sharing. I went to see it a couple of years ago myself, but unfortunately it wasn't on display at the time :sad: It is a very interesting piece, although the story that it had belonged to Leopold III of Austria, who died at Sempach in 1386, is unfortunately not proven. A ...

Erik Schmidt

I would love to see 14th cent Bohemian armour and military clothing compiled in a single source. Hopefully Doug will soon have his book on the shelves. I know how difficult it is getting info from that part of the world, but he should have managed to get most of the extant 14th century pieces cover...

Erik Schmidt

Ok, since when is mail not armour??? He has on mail sleeves... which imply a mail shirt and he has some kind of leg armour on... :?: David, I don't see any reason that it has to be mail on the sleeves. It could be, but it could just as well be quilted fabric, as Russ and James also state. As for th...

Erik Schmidt

Sounds good!!!

I wish they had done the same thing for armour up to 1440 too though. They have a few interesting pieces from the 14th century in the Czech Republic.

Erik

Erik Schmidt

I'm also surprised that this is not of Bohemian origin. Must be a strong connection with the Parler school. I must say, I don't see anything to convince me he is wearing armour. For the date given, I would have expected clear plate leg armour at the least, with plate on the lower arms. Maybe there w...

Re: Late Coat of Plates

Re: Fluted bascinet c1327

Spangen helm being sold privately