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- Fri Feb 28, 2003 4:13 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Case hardening????
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6
Nope, that's cryo treatment. Case hardening is getting it really hot in an atmosphere with an overdose of CO (carbonmonoxide), which will slowly diffuse into the iron, convert to C and CO2, the CO2 diffuses out, leaving a net effect of increasing the carbon content of the iron and thus turning it to...
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 11:16 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Im lost :(
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:46 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: raising a pigface
- Replies: 10
- Views: 22
The patterns and tips mentioned above are not strictly raising. The material is cut and welded, which I consider to be very different from raising. If you however just want to make a pigface with modern techniques, that's the way to go. If, on the other hand, you want to play with (presumably) perio...
- Fri Feb 28, 2003 8:55 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is 8 mm enough for a spangen helmet?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14
Hmm... Now there's an incentive to have newbies make their own armour! Pity it's rather close to my head size on the outside , which makes it tiny in size on the inside. I've continued with the dobble, filling in the holes with 8 mm plating. Let me tell you: it's tough to dish 8 mm! Even when at yel...
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:49 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is 8 mm enough for a spangen helmet?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14
- Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:47 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Is 8 mm enough for a spangen helmet?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14
Is 8 mm enough for a spangen helmet?
I was wondering if 8 mm is thick enough for a SCA legal spangen helmet? 16 gauge is about 8 mm, isn't it??
[img]http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/spangen.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/spangen.jpg[/img]
- Wed Feb 19, 2003 2:18 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raised bascinet - progress pics
- Replies: 26
- Views: 53
- Wed Feb 19, 2003 7:38 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Blackened Knees
- Replies: 11
- Views: 13
Forget about the motor oil for blackening. This stuff has specifically been designed not to blacken. Imagine the oil turning to thick black sticky goo in your engine?? I've read references to period methods using feathers or horn to blacken armour, and can confirm that it works. In particular the ho...
- Wed Feb 19, 2003 6:31 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raised bascinet - progress pics
- Replies: 26
- Views: 53
The 70 hours isn't just heavy beating of red-hot steel... I do that part typically in 8 hours for a scull-cap sized piece of steel, longer for larger helmets. I haven't made any full face sallets yet, but my guess is that it would be about 20 hours of work at the forge, and then at least twice as mu...
- Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:45 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: any Swedes?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10
- Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raised bascinet - progress pics
- Replies: 26
- Views: 53
That inside looks familiar, I get a very similar appearance: hot raised: http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/raised1.jpg cold raised: http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/raised2.jpg and some originals: http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/raised3.jpg http://www.astro.lu.se/~ralph/pics/bayrnmsallet1-b.jp...
- Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:55 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Don't do this
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alcyoneus: You can buy such things over the counter, that probably work better than what you rigged up. Safer, too. http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/wink.gif </font><HR></BLOCK...
- Mon Feb 10, 2003 4:49 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raised bascinet - progress pics
- Replies: 26
- Views: 53
Anders, what did you raise on and with? I'm currently working on an italian sallet which started from a blank of 40 cm 3 mm mild. And I'm running out of material... This is the 4th raised helmet I've started on, and somehow it seems that bigger and heavier blanks seem to compress more rather than st...
- Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:27 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How long does it take?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10
Rob, great collection of tools! That's more than I have gathered over the years! As said, try to get a feel for the metal using simple projects first. Expect to scrap a whole lot of things, so you might just as well start with that attitude: take a piece of steel and bend it, dish it, flare it, roll...
- Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:56 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Commissions gone bad, etc... Horror stories...
- Replies: 50
- Views: 43
About 15 years ago I took up stock removal knifemaking, quickly found out that I wanted to learn how to forge, and started on my first forged dagger. A very good friend of mine placed an order, stating that he'd like to have the first dagger I forged, and we agreed that it had to be armour piercing....
- Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:49 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raising and the proper tools
- Replies: 21
- Views: 29
Now you bring it up, yes, you've got a good point. I have a 500 gram raising hammer which I occasionally use for hot raising, but only for smaller parts and thinner gauge. But I agree that it is nice to work with. For the helmets I've made I still prefer the heavier hammer. My initial aversion again...
- Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:34 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: How do you finish your flutes?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 11
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">...Then you clean it up by grinding and polishing. I have played with 15th and 16th c. items and I think that this is how most of the stuff was done.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree with Wade. Take...
- Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:13 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Raising and the proper tools
- Replies: 21
- Views: 29
Usually the head of a raising hammer is long and narrow, to allow deep profiles without being bothered by the handle. The face of a raising hammer is in general rectangular, about two to three times as wide as it is high, with gently rounded edges all around. All that said, I use the peen of my forg...
- Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:56 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: 15th Century Shoes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 7
- Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:51 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Treated steel
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">i think we are getting a test piece . to hammer, drill file and grind .. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Forget about the hammer, you will crack the steel instead. For drills, use the appropriate kind, ch...
- Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:11 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: pattern welded viking swords
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4
If you want to make an accurate reproduction, including flux type and such, remember that the iron and steel quality back then was very different from what we have now. If you have ever worked with real wrought iron you'll know the difference. The oldfashioned stuff, wrought iron, is full of slag in...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:51 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: blackend steel halberds?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Where was the halberd located? How old was it?</font> It's located in the "armemuseet" in Stockholm, judging by the style I'd date it around 1450-1500. Rather plain, no engravings or ecthings, no particularly high craftmanship. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="V...
- Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:36 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: edge roping ------- How?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 21
Instead of going from an L-shaped edge to a U-shaped, I have made a ?-shaped or P-shaped edge a few times. It provides enough volume for a nice roped edge (though I didn't rope it), and you'll have the original edge tucked away on the inside of the piece, instead of being part of the visible section...
- Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:47 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: blackend steel halberds?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1
I got an order to make a halberd in mid 15th century northern european style. There are plenty of pictures showing the halberds in profile, but I was wondering about the weight an thickness. When in a museum the other day I had a chance to look at a halberd edge-on, and this specific one was absurdl...
- Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:14 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: boiled linseed oil finishes on wood.
- Replies: 9
- Views: 10
Drying time for linseed oil varies extremely with the grade of linseed oil you have. Cold pressed, hot pressed, boiled,... I'm sure it also depends on the place the linseed was grown, when it was harvested, if it was a good season, and plenty of other reasons. The stuff I use, boiled or hot pressed,...
- Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:36 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Saddle pic
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1
- Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:26 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Spring Steel knowledge please
- Replies: 14
- Views: 20
Time to get this thread on the right track again. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by losthelm: ... pacing it in an insalating substance. I think it started with a ver but cant be definite.</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE...
- Fri Jan 17, 2003 5:53 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: dopple?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17
Thanks, I figured it had to be something like that. Does anyone have any pictures of or references to the existing ones? I've been running around with this nagging idea that just doesn't want to go away, for about a year now. I like sallets. I want to make more of them. But I don't want to spend the...
- Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:13 am
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: dopple?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17
dopple?
Konstantin the Red mentioned "dopples" in another thread (http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum1 ... 09400.html).
Just what exactly are they, when were they first mentioned and/or used, and where can I find more information on them?
Just what exactly are they, when were they first mentioned and/or used, and where can I find more information on them?
- Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:23 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Heat treating
- Replies: 13
- Views: 27
Interesting method. I know of it, but would never have considerd using it on plate. I think the distortions will be extreme in this method. Just hypothetically, if you manage to quench to just above the martensite start temperature (roughly 225 C), and keep the entire object at that temp, distortion...
- Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:52 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: Early period scabbards
- Replies: 2
- Views: 10
- Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:42 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: knight's horses
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14
Breeds are a modern concept, IIRC only about two centuries old. The way a breed looks can change a lot over very short times. Look at the original shetland pony. Now look at the american version of the shetland pony. One is used to pack over 100 kg loads, the other is used to impress people with its...
- Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:28 pm
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: saddle
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12
Like most things, it's not that hard if you know how and have the proper materials and tools, I guess. All my experience when it comes to saddles stems from one saddle tree I've modified in an attempt to make something viking-age looking. The biggest problem, as I see it, is that you need a saddle t...
- Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:08 pm
- Forum: Armour - Design and Construction
- Topic: Silversmithing Book for raising info?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 11
I went and learned it the hard way, reading books on silversmithing, various articles from "the best of the hammer", experimenting together with an experienced armourer who had only seen it being done a long time ago, and eventually I found rather consistant and good descriptions in ToMAR and on the...
- Wed Jan 01, 2003 10:04 am
- Forum: Historical Research
- Topic: saddle
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12
Jeff, how did you make this saddle? I've been thinking of making a similar style saddle for several years now, but never dared to take the first step. My biggest problem is (as I see it now) the saddle tree which fits my horse well enough. From there on, most of it seems to be either straighforward ...

