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1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:31 am
by sulla123
Does any one know where I can find some larger pictures of this.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... 468647900/update - looks like it is Jan III van Polanen not the II.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan II van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:17 pm
by Baron Alcyoneus
While it wasn't the height of fashion for the date, it is still very nice! It is too bad he lost his arms&legs.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan II van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:02 pm
by Konstantin the Red
Sulla, care to mention which details you're particularly pursuing? Might focus the research. Looks like the gentleman had a globose body defense such as a full-on late-fourteenth breastplate. Curious with the reinforced mail chausses as leg defense, to be sure!
Well, what's left looks like it
might be reinforces over chausses...

Re: 1394 - 'Jan II van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:58 pm
by Jonathon Janusz
The decorative border at the bottom of the breastplate and the complimentary ones on the arms caught my attention. Interesting piece overall. Thanks for sharing!
Re: 1394 - 'Jan II van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:04 pm
by sulla123
Well there are several things that are interesting to me. One is the way the clothing and armor is layered. The decorations on the armor and clothing etc. Basicly its is very much like what I have been thinking abotu doing.
Any way it looks like he has a mid thigh length surcoat with angel type arms over his gambeson. Then over his surcaot he has his breastplate and then a skirt of mail. Also it looks like he also has a matching backplate. I also like the decoration on the armor. And the decoration on the surcoat are also interesting to me. Just over all an interesting piece.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:09 pm
by sulla123
I found out it is Jan the III and what town it is in.
http://www.bredanassaustad.nl/en/sights ... an-polanen Maybe now I can find some larger photos.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan II van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:26 pm
by Baron Alcyoneus
Full BPs are 1380-90? The Silver Altar of St James at Pistoia Cathedral shows them. Globose are more 1360-70s, I think. So grandpa wanted to wear his armor again.

Very nice find.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:38 pm
by sulla123
Oh by the way there are several photos from that same person on flicker. Like this one
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... otostream/It looks like he has a full chainmail shirt and then over that his surcoat and breastplate and the mailskirt. I believe these are all the images.
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Jan+II+van+Polanen
Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:27 am
by Gaston de Clermont
Awesome shots! So many amazing details in this piece- the texture of the fabric, and the decorative edging. I love the lines of the whole kit.
Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:58 am
by Galvyn Lockhart
Gaston de Clermont wrote:Awesome shots! So many amazing details in this piece- the texture of the fabric, and the decorative edging. I love the lines of the whole kit.
Not only the pics of Jan III, but did you see the pics of the brasses of Johannes (1332) & Gerard (1398) van Heers? Amazing stuff! I think this photo account bears some more examination.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilam ... 468647900/
Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:10 am
by sulla123
Ya he has some interesting stuff on his photo account

Re: 1394 - 'Jan III van Polanen
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:43 pm
by sulla123
I found another effigie with the same style setup.
http://www.themcs.org/armour/knights/Ge ... %20150.JPG
von Tottenheim 1400
Germany, Grunsfeld