bifurcated gloves for a gauntlet

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Gregoire,

Yes it did. Mephit kindly sent it to me, and I never did figure out how to post it anywhere. It is still on my "desktop". If one of you tech-savey folks can tell me what to do, I would be pleased to share it. It is a PDF.

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I'm not particularly tech savvy, though I would think that you could put it on one of your websites or FB pages and make it available for download from there.
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Mac wrote:Gregoire,

Yes it did. Mephit kindly sent it to me, and I never did figure out how to post it anywhere. It is still on my "desktop". If one of you tech-savey folks can tell me what to do, I would be pleased to share it. It is a PDF.

Mac
After reading the thread about Phillip II's bifurcated gauntlets I decided to dig up this one.

Mac,

Any chance of getting that PDF of the pattern?

Thanks,
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I believe I saved the image drawn on graph paper as a PDF. Each square being an inch, you can scale it from there.

I can send it to you on Facebook Tom.
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I have searched my folders and finally found the PDF. I can make it available if someone will tell me how to do that.

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Mac wrote:I have searched my folders and finally found the PDF. I can make it available if someone will tell me how to do that.

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A public, open download site would probably be the easiest. Dropbox, Google Drive, etc.
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Mac wrote:I have searched my folders and finally found the PDF. I can make it available if someone will tell me how to do that.

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email it to me and I will put it on Google drive and post a link.
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Tom B. wrote:
Mac wrote:I have searched my folders and finally found the PDF. I can make it available if someone will tell me how to do that.

Mac
email it to me and I will put it on Google drive and post a link.
Okey doke.

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Thanks! Much nicer than what I had done!!
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After 2+ years of telling myself that I was going to use this pattern to make myself some new driving gloves, I've finally gotten off my butt and done it. Sort of. :)

I'm pretty happy with the prototype and learned some lessons along the way.

1. Mac and I have nearly the same sized hands - terrific news when he decides to surprise me with a pair of gauntlets for Christmas!

2. Polar fleece is a pain in the butt to sew fiddly bits with since it stretches.

3. It is important the fouchettes are properly sized and placed if you don't want pointy fingers.

4. I may do something on the outside seams as well - again, pointy fingers.

5. There is a twist in the body that is coming from somewhere, but I don't know where. Will need to investigate this further - I was excited to have gotten this far and wanted to post...


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Looking good.
I noticed a couple of pair of these in the gauntlets shown in Dr. Goll's thesis.
Not sure if any are original.
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Are you really going to have medieval driving gloves? Dude, be careful that this is not the first step in a slippery medieval slope. You don't want to end up wearing a bowl-cut and a forked beard all the time like I do. :wink:

The pointy ends of the founchettes are very fussy, even in leather. Small changes in where and how they end make big differences in the smoothness of the outlines. I wish I had some good advise about handling them.

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Gregoire de Lyon wrote: 5. There is a twist in the body that is coming from somewhere, but I don't know where. Will need to investigate this further - I was excited to have gotten this far and wanted to post...
I made the left hand glove later Saturday night and was able to eliminate the twist. I believe it was almost entirely due to sloppiness in setting in the thumb.
Mac wrote: Are you really going to have medieval driving gloves? Dude, be careful that this is not the first step in a slippery medieval slope. You don't want to end up wearing a bowl-cut and a forked beard all the time like I do. :wink:
The splittens are such a perfect solution for cold fingers, that it's hard not too want to wear them all the time. There are commercially available modern "splittens", but at $60+/pair, I'd rather make them and have them for events too. :)

If I could pull off a forked beard, I totally would...
Mac wrote: The pointy ends of the founchettes are very fussy, even in leather. Small changes in where and how they end make big differences in the smoothness of the outlines. I wish I had some good advise about handling them.
I think that on the next pair, I will sew the founchettes in part way up the fingers and then will basting stitch the remainder until I get a silhouette I am happy with. From there I can modify the pattern for my hands.

That said, at this point it is minutia - I have made functional gloves and am starting to focus on vanity. :)
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Mac wrote:Here is the split mitten pattern, drawn on a 1" grid. I'm sorry about the dark spots...they seem to be *in* my camera.

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Mac.... If you were to buy a modern glove what size would you buy?
( I want a frame of reference for your hand size and the pattern )
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I wear a size 9 on THIS chart.

Mac's gloves fit me just about perfectly without any modification.
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Baron Conal wrote:

Mac.... If you were to buy a modern glove what size would you buy?
( I want a frame of reference for your hand size and the pattern )
A lot depends on how well the glove is designed and sewn, and what material it is made of.

I think of myself as fitting a size "medium" in well made gloves. By contrast, cheap men's work gloves celled "medium" are always too big, and the ones called "small" (when you can find them) but are too stiff to use. Size "large" women's work gloves fit me pretty well in general.

So, I guess you could say that I was "on the small side of medium".

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I've been working on how to sew gloves (and split mittens also). One suggestion I found on a glove making site was to use craft felt as a cheap material to try out patterns on. It has just enough stretch to behave enough like leather that it works well to prototype. And it's dirt cheap compared to the cheapest leather.
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PolarFleece works for prototyping gloves, too. And, if you find the fit works, you can always reuse the prototype as a lining, should you want to.
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Thansen wrote:I've been working on how to sew gloves (and split mittens also). One suggestion I found on a glove making site was to use craft felt as a cheap material to try out patterns on. It has just enough stretch to behave enough like leather that it works well to prototype. And it's dirt cheap compared to the cheapest leather.
That seems like a pretty good idea.

Can you post a link to that glove making site?

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I believe the use felt for pattering tip was on http://www.renaissancetailor.com/demos_gloves.htm
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Thansen wrote:I believe the use felt for pattering tip was on http://www.renaissancetailor.com/demos_gloves.htm
Thank you, T.H.!
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