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Who can help me

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:37 pm
by pinoc chelloo
I ask you: gloves above Lace is processing what tools, want to know a friend help me, it is a problem a long time

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:52 pm
by losthelm
To me it looks like a small triangle file and round file where used before the plates were assembled.

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:08 pm
by Sean Powell
I would agree. It is almost definitely file work. Probably meant to disguise the index marks during tthe consttruction process. A small v with a triangle file can be seen while hot in the forge and be shifted left/right into a larger V if it doesn't line up exactly. It is actually very quick but repetitive. I would not use power as it would be too easy to make a mistake.

Sean

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:04 pm
by Konstantin the Red
By which Sean means "not use power equipment" -- I don't know if he means a Little Giant power hammer or what. Maybe he just means don't use a grinding wheel in an electric drill -- just use a triangular file.

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Pinoc, call this "file-work" and the glove "gauntlet" -- a large glove with a cuff to it, of either leather or steel. Like welders' gloves.

We sometimes shorten the word to "gaunts," which would confuse you if you looked in your English-Chinese dictionary to find that "gaunt" means "thin and bony." Which we are not really saying! 8)

So, in gothic-style gauntlets like those, to make them you:

1) form and bend the pieces, the "lames" -- like lamellar and laminar, not like "my foot hurts and I can't walk so good."
2) do file-work on the edges, to decorate. Also sometimes helps articulation/movement of the lames.
3) put it all together with the rivets.

Fit a leather glove inside, and enjoy! To do that, rivet a leather strip inside the finger tips of the steel gauntlet, and sew the finger-tips of the gloves to that leather strip. Other little tabs of leather can be put in other places in the gauntlet to sew the leather glove to.

After some years, the leather glove will be worn out and deteriorated (made bad) by your sweat. Remove glove, sew in another glove.

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:47 am
by pinoc chelloo
Konstantin the Red wrote:By which Sean means "not use power equipment" -- I don't know if he means a Little Giant power hammer or what. Maybe he just means don't use a grinding wheel in an electric drill -- just use a triangular file.

Image

Pinoc, call this "file-work" and the glove "gauntlet" -- a large glove with a cuff to it, of either leather or steel. Like welders' gloves.

We sometimes shorten the word to "gaunts," which would confuse you if you looked in your English-Chinese dictionary to find that "gaunt" means "thin and bony." Which we are not really saying! 8)

So, in gothic-style gauntlets like those, to make them you:

1) form and bend the pieces, the "lames" -- like lamellar and laminar, not like "my foot hurts and I can't walk so good."
2) do file-work on the edges, to decorate. Also sometimes helps articulation/movement of the lames.
3) put it all together with the rivets.

Fit a leather glove inside, and enjoy! To do that, rivet a leather strip inside the finger tips of the steel gauntlet, and sew the finger-tips of the gloves to that leather strip. Other little tabs of leather can be put in other places in the gauntlet to sew the leather glove to.

After some years, the leather glove will be worn out and deteriorated (made bad) by your sweat. Remove glove, sew in another glove.
Thank you:
     Konstantin, if I let a friend of mine translated it for me, thank you for your help, I'm learning English, over a period of time, can you communicate

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:47 am
by pinoc chelloo
Sean Powell wrote:I would agree. It is almost definitely file work. Probably meant to disguise the index marks during tthe consttruction process. A small v with a triangle file can be seen while hot in the forge and be shifted left/right into a larger V if it doesn't line up exactly. It is actually very quick but repetitive. I would not use power as it would be too easy to make a mistake.

Sean
Thank you:
     sean, if I let a friend of mine translated it for me, thank you for your help, I'm learning English, over a period of time, can you communicate

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:51 am
by pinoc chelloo
losthelm wrote:To me it looks like a small triangle file and round file where used before the plates were assembled.
Thank you:
losthelm  :Me try the next new

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:35 am
by The Iron Dwarf
which part of the world are you from Pinoc?
on this forum there are members just about everywhere and maybe some near you

im in England, also you may want to add it to your profile

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:36 am
by Konstantin the Red
Pinoc's in mainland China. Very good metalworker; as for the English, keep it simple, very simple, and let him grow. Him, and his friend who translates. I figure Pinoc has about one year of English as a Second Language, and his friend as much as two years of the same.

Is Chan Lancelot in Hong Kong...?

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:08 am
by whonew
try locksmith files

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:37 am
by Konstantin the Red
Also known as "swiss files?"

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:18 pm
by Thomas Powers
Not to mention that few if any ESL clases cover armour jargon! We have enough problems with native speakers not knowing that...

Re: Who can help me

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:53 pm
by Konstantin the Red
We know our work is cut out for us! 8)