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titanium segmentata?
Anyone ever made one?
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They might suffer from the same problem the aluminum versions do - the girdle plates not having enough weight to sit where they are supposed to, and riding up.
There was a whole bunch of guys local to me that made aluminum ones as a group, and they learned to rue that - they all ended up with severely bruised abdomens...
There was a whole bunch of guys local to me that made aluminum ones as a group, and they learned to rue that - they all ended up with severely bruised abdomens...
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Properly-made steel segmentatas weigh less than fifteen pounds. They aren't exactly heavy.
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What gauge and alloy did you have in mind?Dan Howard wrote:Properly-made steel segmentatas weigh less than fifteen pounds. They aren't exactly heavy.
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We're bumping up against a modern mentality here that doesn't work so very well for medieval and Renaissance body armor: the mentality that Space Age metals have to be better -- right? Don't they?
Well... they are better for flying in the sky with.
But one is building armor, not aerospace components, Weight is not always the ultimate enemy to be defeated by the ultimate in means.
I'm getting increasingly persuaded that wonder-metals simply aren't called for in this rolling around in the dust of the arena.
Well... they are better for flying in the sky with.
But one is building armor, not aerospace components, Weight is not always the ultimate enemy to be defeated by the ultimate in means.
I'm getting increasingly persuaded that wonder-metals simply aren't called for in this rolling around in the dust of the arena.
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Extant segmentata plates are less than 1mm thick and the armours weigh 12 lbs or even less. Reenactors tend to use slightly thicker plates putting the weight up a couple of pounds. All the modern ones I've seen are made of mild steel but some Roman ones were a medium carbon steel.boris_ wrote:What gauge and alloy did you have in mind?Dan Howard wrote:Properly-made steel segmentatas weigh less than fifteen pounds. They aren't exactly heavy.
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The plates at the museum at Corbridge that I saw were corroded enough that figuring out their original thickness would take a bit of doing.
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There are plenty of other plates that are in better condition.
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titanium: no maintenance, no dents, no rust.
what is not to be liked if you fight all the time and do not have a bunch of servants to maintain your armour?
edit: forgot equivalent gauge of metal is 40 percent lighter than stainless
what is not to be liked if you fight all the time and do not have a bunch of servants to maintain your armour?
edit: forgot equivalent gauge of metal is 40 percent lighter than stainless
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am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
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In the other pan of the balance: 301 stainless, 120ksi to dent, no maintenance, no rust, less cost.
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So if I go with Stainless, what gauge are we talking?
I suppose 18ga for everything?
I suppose 18ga for everything?
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What kind of stainless? with 304 18 should work, with 301FH one can go thinner
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I don't know stainless types,
Which type is the most resistant to bending and rust?
Which type is the most resistant to bending and rust?
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Unless you are getting really fancyRomulus_Rapax wrote:I don't know stainless types,
Which type is the most resistant to bending and rust?
304 is the basic kind. 18 gauge should work.
301 full hard is the kind similar to spring steel. 20 gauge can work.
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My Corbridge A weighs in at 13lbs and is a joy to wear and work in. The Tuetoburg forest finds were preserved pretty anaerobically so are in a good condition for judging thickness.
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