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Bands on the knees
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:16 pm
by Thomas MacFinn
I an looking at several effigies from around 1340 and they all show a small pointed knee cop with some type of band under it. Can anyone explain what I am looking at (and possibly show me some reproductions)?
http://1.1.1.4/bmi/www.themcs.org/churc ... 0%2077.jpg
Re: Bands on the knees
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:40 pm
by tiredWeasel
Your link isn't loading.
But do you mean this one:
Re: Bands on the knees
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:11 pm
by Thomas MacFinn
tiredWeasel wrote:Your link isn't loading.
But do you mean this one:
Yes
Re: Bands on the knees
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:09 pm
by Jason Grimes
There is a good chance, at least from what I have read, that it's cuirboulli.
Re: Bands on the knees
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:27 am
by Sean M
Since Blair, the usual assumption has been that the knees are still sewn or riveted to a large leather or textile foundation, which may be separate from the foundation of the cuisses at this point. Until we have a dozen intact poleyns from this period we won't know though. Some of the descriptions of poleyns in Thom Richardson's thesis are worth reading.
Re: Bands on the knees
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:08 pm
by Kel Rekuta
As Sean mentioned, Blair made an argument for mounting
poleyns over a gamboised cuisse using details from the effigy of Colaccio Beccadelli (
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/3806/3362/) and another that I don't recall. Practically speaking, this stays in place pretty well in the rough and tumble of close grappling so it should be fine in other situations.
You might be hard pressed to say the same about a rigidly mounted support of hardened leather strapped over the knee.
