Hi folks!
I finally got around to taking some pictures of my gambeson that I just got from Wessex County Wares. You can see them here:
http://www.crosswinds.net/~wessexwares/clothing/clothing.htm
That's me in the pictures with my new gambeson! It's fantastic. Completely hand sewn. 100% linen stuffed with 100% cotton.
Contact Wendy (wensdie@yahoo.com) if you're interested - she's looking for more commissions.
Steve
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by malaki:
Can you put arming points on that? It looks really nice, if it can be used as an arming coat I will definately get one and let her know where I heard about her from. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Malaki:
You may just want to commission her to do a proper arming doublet. That's a 12th century gambeson...way more padding than is needed for what I think you want.
I'm on her list for a gambeson, too!
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Can you put arming points on that? It looks really nice, if it can be used as an arming coat I will definately get one and let her know where I heard about her from. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Malaki:
You may just want to commission her to do a proper arming doublet. That's a 12th century gambeson...way more padding than is needed for what I think you want.
I'm on her list for a gambeson, too!
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Templar Bob is correct - this style of gambeson would not have points on it.
However, if you can send her pictures of what you want, she can make it.
Steve
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However, if you can send her pictures of what you want, she can make it.
Steve
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Malaki:
If your persona is sufficiently late-period, you could utilize this Padded Cotehardie Pattern, based on Charles the Bold's in the Louvre.
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Robert Coleman, Jr.
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If your persona is sufficiently late-period, you could utilize this Padded Cotehardie Pattern, based on Charles the Bold's in the Louvre.
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"Yeah that would be great if I understood how the pattern thing works..."
Welp, Ares, I feel and understand your pain. But you have to understand, there's not a lot of hand holding here on the archive!
Generally, people are going to point you in the right direction (if you're lucky) and then you've got to start moving under your own power.
My advice, in the case of learning to sew and make garments is to find your local SCA group and hook up with the women. They probably get together on a semi-regular basis and sew and gab together. We have sewing circles every other Wednesday in our local SCA group. It's convienient for me because it's a short walk across the street (same apartment complex). Plus all the chicks are there.
Steve
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Welp, Ares, I feel and understand your pain. But you have to understand, there's not a lot of hand holding here on the archive!
Generally, people are going to point you in the right direction (if you're lucky) and then you've got to start moving under your own power.
My advice, in the case of learning to sew and make garments is to find your local SCA group and hook up with the women. They probably get together on a semi-regular basis and sew and gab together. We have sewing circles every other Wednesday in our local SCA group. It's convienient for me because it's a short walk across the street (same apartment complex). Plus all the chicks are there.
Steve
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Steve:
Did you get the picture of my new choppy-choppy? A pretty neat sergeant-type weapon, huh?
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Did you get the picture of my new choppy-choppy? A pretty neat sergeant-type weapon, huh?
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Ares- To inspire you I would like to say at this time last year I had an extreme fear of sewing machines, and right now I am in the final stages of making my own mixed cotehardie style gambeson/arming coat with quite a few personal modifications for SCA use. This is the basic order that I learned to sew in.
Step 1: Used a simplicity/macall's/butterick(one of the easy patterns you can get at wal-mart) pattern. They have very simple to follow instructions for the beginner. I admit my girlfriend showed me the basics, threading the machine and how to work it. And explained to me alot of the things I did't understand. If you have no girlfriend use T-bob's suggestion of finding a garber's guild. This will teach you basic techniques that you will use for all things you will sew.
Step 2- After making either 1 or 2 outfits with multiple parts, or a few simple patterns, and feeling fairly comfortable with them(you don't have to really have strait hems or perfect things) graduate to making someing to do with your persona. I am working on a mid/late 14th century English person. Naturally I went for a cotehardie next, love the way they look, this was about 2 months after starting. I used the cotehadie pattern from Period Patterns(www.sewingcentral.com has all of the ones available in stock nearly all the time, www.pillagedvillage.com has them cheaper, but it is hit and miss if they have the one you are looking for, my suggestion is to find the one you want on sewing central then look to see if pillaged village has it before you order from sewing central). In the span of a month I made 2 cotehardies from this pattern and about 3 hoods which only take about an hour. These patterns often combine patterns for several different styles and options into as few pattern pieces as possible. It can be a tad confusing, but if you sit down and look at the instructions and pattern pieces for a little while, you can usually figure out what the instructions are talking about, and when you finish these you should be fairly good at sewing and have garb that looks better than most people in the SCA. At this point I went to gulf wars and many people tried to compliment my lady on my garb. When told that I made it myself I was told that I honor her by being such a good student.
Step 3- After returning from Gulf Wars my next project was the gambeson, I bought the pattern, then the materials, and when I started constructing it realized I needed little or no help to modify the pattern to what I needed and to size it when it turned out much larger that I wanted. Now she can still sew 3 buttons on to the time it takes me to sew on 1, but I have found that pretty much she can teach me no more, I am almost to her level in understanding patterns and construction techniques, even if she is faster, and it only took about 6 months.
Step 4- Next step which I have yet to accomplish is taking a pattern like the one posted above and translating it into something I can use. To do this I am going to attempt to use some online patterns to make a 14th century shirt, braises, and hose. I am also going to step up to the next level and use linen fabric and hand stitch it using linen thread.
Hope this helps you.
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Step 1: Used a simplicity/macall's/butterick(one of the easy patterns you can get at wal-mart) pattern. They have very simple to follow instructions for the beginner. I admit my girlfriend showed me the basics, threading the machine and how to work it. And explained to me alot of the things I did't understand. If you have no girlfriend use T-bob's suggestion of finding a garber's guild. This will teach you basic techniques that you will use for all things you will sew.
Step 2- After making either 1 or 2 outfits with multiple parts, or a few simple patterns, and feeling fairly comfortable with them(you don't have to really have strait hems or perfect things) graduate to making someing to do with your persona. I am working on a mid/late 14th century English person. Naturally I went for a cotehardie next, love the way they look, this was about 2 months after starting. I used the cotehadie pattern from Period Patterns(www.sewingcentral.com has all of the ones available in stock nearly all the time, www.pillagedvillage.com has them cheaper, but it is hit and miss if they have the one you are looking for, my suggestion is to find the one you want on sewing central then look to see if pillaged village has it before you order from sewing central). In the span of a month I made 2 cotehardies from this pattern and about 3 hoods which only take about an hour. These patterns often combine patterns for several different styles and options into as few pattern pieces as possible. It can be a tad confusing, but if you sit down and look at the instructions and pattern pieces for a little while, you can usually figure out what the instructions are talking about, and when you finish these you should be fairly good at sewing and have garb that looks better than most people in the SCA. At this point I went to gulf wars and many people tried to compliment my lady on my garb. When told that I made it myself I was told that I honor her by being such a good student.
Step 3- After returning from Gulf Wars my next project was the gambeson, I bought the pattern, then the materials, and when I started constructing it realized I needed little or no help to modify the pattern to what I needed and to size it when it turned out much larger that I wanted. Now she can still sew 3 buttons on to the time it takes me to sew on 1, but I have found that pretty much she can teach me no more, I am almost to her level in understanding patterns and construction techniques, even if she is faster, and it only took about 6 months.
Step 4- Next step which I have yet to accomplish is taking a pattern like the one posted above and translating it into something I can use. To do this I am going to attempt to use some online patterns to make a 14th century shirt, braises, and hose. I am also going to step up to the next level and use linen fabric and hand stitch it using linen thread.
Hope this helps you.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by malaki:
Not true Steve. I have asked about a million questions since I've been here and everybody has been immensely helpful. Gaston even went so far as to give me a really nice helm to get me on the field faster and cheaper, don't sell you guys short - you are great!</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Malaki:
Do you think the pattern I cited will work for you?
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Not true Steve. I have asked about a million questions since I've been here and everybody has been immensely helpful. Gaston even went so far as to give me a really nice helm to get me on the field faster and cheaper, don't sell you guys short - you are great!</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Malaki:
Do you think the pattern I cited will work for you?
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Bob:
Yeah, the falchion looks cool!
Malaki:
Oh I'm not putting down the helpfulness of people here on the archive. Lots of folks have bent over backwards to help people. It's just that generally when people ask a reall open-ended question (i.e. how do you make armour, how do you make clothes) you generally don't get a lot of in-depth answers because it would take forever to do so.
Steve
Yeah, the falchion looks cool!
Malaki:
Oh I'm not putting down the helpfulness of people here on the archive. Lots of folks have bent over backwards to help people. It's just that generally when people ask a reall open-ended question (i.e. how do you make armour, how do you make clothes) you generally don't get a lot of in-depth answers because it would take forever to do so.
Steve