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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:31 am
by Talbot
I'll be there. Brian and I can carpool. I will present anything there is an interest in. I will bring some newer armour aquizitions including some Maximilian arm bits and some excavated mail. (presuming they arrive in time)
Any ideas for things people would like me to present?
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:38 am
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Talbot wrote:I'll be there. Brian and I can carpool. I will present anything there is an interest in. I will bring some newer armour aquizitions including some Maximilian arm bits and some excavated mail. (presuming they arrive in time)
Any ideas for things people would like me to present?
Ummm...maybe a class on how to make shoes?

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:35 pm
by Chadwick
Brian,
If you are going to be in town this weekend, could you shoot me your address to my email listed in my profile?
I'd like to drop off copies of the video from the fall 2003 MMAG.
-Keith/Austin.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:58 pm
by Brian W. Rainey
Chadwick wrote:Brian,
If you are going to be in town this weekend, could you shoot me your address to my email listed in my profile?
I'd like to drop off copies of the video from the fall 2003 MMAG.
-Keith/Austin.
You don't have an email in your profile:
Brian W. Rainey
4905 West Bromley Drive
McHenry, IL 60050
Cell - 847.322.1810
Phone - 815.385.8297
Here is a map...
Map to Brian's house.
If you would like me to meet you somewhere.. let me know. I completely forgot who had done the videos and my e-mailwas lost back before I moved... about 3 years worth, bummer.
Thanks!
Brian
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:01 pm
by Sasuke
JT wrote:I'd like to be there, and/or try to be there. But... I'm definitely about 7 or 8 levels below "apprentice."
I don't really have any projects to bring -- unless I made a run down to Sasuke's,
and he hasn't decided to do something on his own w/ the greathelm I was working on there last year. I don't know that I have any ideas that are feasible, either. What I need is help, assistance, guidance, education, training, .... I can readily understand if people don't want or can't afford to spend the time that my being there might demand of them.
Another question... what about tools and materials? I have little or nothing of each. I'd certainly be willing to pay for materials (if that's acceptable), but will tools be available -- and plentiful enough so people don't have to take turns dishing?

Considering you are the mac daddy of the archive I doubt anyone will have the least problem with you showing up and asking for any assistance
The helmet is still waiting for you. I will bring it along if you don't want to make a trip down here before then.
I plan on bringing some tools and such so feel free to use mine if you need/want.
Chris
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:17 pm
by Chadwick
Brian W. Rainey wrote:Chadwick wrote:Brian,
You don't have an email in your profile:
Sorry, it was there, but it was restricted to only Administrator access.
It's now open access (I wonder how long it's going to take to get
my email address added to the sword scam target list? :

)
-Keith.
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:17 pm
by Garreth
well, i was planning on comming up with my knight, but he's going to T.O.C. that weekend. So, unless someone from southern ohio want's to carpool...
On a related note, can someone take some pictures of my helm, while you are at the shop?
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:33 am
by Mark D. Chapman
old_bear wrote:Hello Archivists,
A date has been chosen for the 2nd Midwest Armourer's Guild Armour-in!
Saturday, April 3rd, 9:30-??? with a lunch & dinner break. Sorry for the short notice.
We're still working on an agenda. The first half hour will be meet and greet. We'll jump right into demonstrations after that.
Anyone interested in teaching, please contact us.
I am looking forward to making this one.
Well to add fuel to a possible fire. I would be happy to do a class/demo on the German style of riveted mail. If nothing else Erik and I can entertain the crowd with instruction and commentary. Let me know if anyone is interested and I will bring the tool kit and pictures.
I am also tooled up to show the punch style of solid ring making based on Sim's article on Roman mail.
Question: Any chance of having a computer video projector there so we could show things straight from the laptop?
Looking forward to seeing everyone,
Marc Rengarth
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:20 pm
by St. George
If I can come I will bring my video projector (I am picking it up in LA next weekend).
Someone just has to remind me.
Alaric
PS- I know that I will get no end of crap from a large group of guys who wear white belts if I don't go to TOC, but dammit I love armor...
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:40 pm
by Magmaforge
I intend on appearing for this, and I am bouncing the notice off of my friends. With luck there will be at least one car-full of people from our neck of the woods.
Oscar Erkenswick, Chicago Swordplay Guild
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:46 pm
by JT
What's the current (rough) schedule look like? Going by what's been posted, I see this:
Saturday: 9:30-???, lunch and dinner breaks
- Demos
- Classes
- Metal pounding
- ???
Sunday: ???-???
- Fighter practice in the afternoon (or earlier?)
I'm mainly looking for start/stop times, and what might be done on a given day.
I'm asking, because I'm trying to figure out, from my end, what to do. My wife is
possibly coming partway down w/ me. If she does, I'll be stopping in Madison (home-town) Friday night, and staying overnight with my sister. Then, Sat AM, I'll come out to Milwaukee (leaving wife w/ sister). Actually, I'll probably stop in Madison Friday night regardless.
Option 1 would be for me to just pound on Saturday, and head back to Madison late Sat night, then spend Sunday w/ my folks before heading back up.
Option 2 would be for me to pound on Saturday, find a nearby hotel for Sat night, and then pound some more on Sunday before heading back. (If my wife comes down to Madison, this will
not be a popular option for her, I suspect).
Option 3 would be to pound Saturday, drive back to Madison Sat night, and then drive back out to Milwaukee on Sunday. Since it's ~75 miles, that's not real popular with me.

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:14 am
by rmermuys
It's a little early to get out an official schedule, but as things progress, I'm sure that we'll have a published schedule to send out.
But, the summary you came up with looks good.
PS: Talbot, remember to bring your B2 so I can refurb it with new bolts.
There should be a class for the Care and Feeding of your B2.
-Randall
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:42 am
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
rmermuys wrote:It's a little early to get out an official schedule, but as things progress, I'm sure that we'll have a published schedule to send out.
But, the summary you came up with looks good.
PS: Talbot, remember to bring your B2 so I can refurb it with new bolts.
There should be a class for the Care and Feeding of your B2.
-Randall
rmermuys:
Be sure to bring some of
your handywork (rattan pommels and crosshilts) as well.
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:53 am
by rmermuys
Templar Bob/De Tyre wrote:Be sure to bring some of your handywork (rattan pommels and crosshilts) as well.
Oh I'm sure I'll have a couple of peices laying around. Considering I make my stuff in the shop that the gathering is going to be held in!
Hey Tbob, I'm still sitting on those 6" square hilts and pommels from Pennsic for you!
Bad Tbob, no cookie!
-Randall
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:37 am
by justmagnus
rmermuys wrote:There should be a class for the Care and Feeding of your B2.
-Randall
And I can't think of a better person to present it. Better get working on those notes now Randall.
Rob
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:57 pm
by Brian W. Rainey
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:43 pm
by Brian W. Rainey
I am working on a website for the "Guild". Did we ever discuss/finalize a name for this thing?
MARG (Midwest Armour Research Group/Guild)
MAG (Midwest Armourer's Guild)
MMAG (Midwest Medieval Armourer's Guild)
Any suggestions/comments?
Also, the treasurer's report is $115.00, at present! If someone can pass the hat at the next one, it would be appreciated.
If any money is needed to provide for the April 3rd date, let me know.
Brian
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:51 pm
by rmermuys
[quote="justmagnus
And I can't think of a better person to present it. Better get working on those notes now Randall.
Rob[/quote]
I don't think anyone wants to know how to care and feed their B2, otherwise people would do it.
-Randall
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:53 pm
by rmermuys
Brian W. Rainey wrote:
MAG (Midwest Armourer's Guild)
Brian
I'll just make a unilateral decision, with absoloutly no authority based on anything, and just pick the simplest one.
Actually, I'd vote on the simplest one, based on the fact that it's simple, and it's all encompassing. If you go with Medieval in the title, you could loose the late medieval/renaissance armourers.
If you use the term research, you might loose the fact that we're also working on armour instead of just researching it.
-Randall
MAG
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:02 pm
by DeaconGestion
Hello,
Brian just let me know that this meeting is being proposed.
I would love to attend either or both dates.
I can bring dishing forms and a sheer if tools are needed.
I do not have much experience, and would like to get the chance to learn more.
Re: MAG
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:38 pm
by rmermuys
DeaconGestion wrote:Hello,
Brian just let me know that this meeting is being proposed.
I would love to attend either or both dates.
I can bring dishing forms and a sheer if tools are needed.
I do not have much experience, and would like to get the chance to learn more.
The date is set for April 3, 2004.
I'm sure a full schedule will be posted when it's available.
-Randall
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:58 pm
by JT
I'll be there. It looks as if option (1) is going to rule, though. My wife is coming down with me as far as Madison.
This means I'll be down only for Saturday's metal pounding and classes.
How much mead should I try and bring along with me?
(Edit)
Oh... for anyone who doesn't remember such things, Sunday, April 4th is the first day of daylight savings time. This means that you lose an hour of sleep early Sunday AM.
(/Edit)
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:19 am
by Brian W. Rainey
[quote="JT"]
How much mead should I try and bring along with me?
[quote]
Well, you can adress this dilemma in two ways:
1. How much can you carry?
2. How much do you have?
Choose wichever provides the largest quantity!

dog-gone-it!
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:32 am
by Morvan
Why is it that you guys start having armour-ins AFTER I leave Wisconsin?
anyone want to have a 'southeastern ohio' armour-in?
randy -- Jess and I are going to be in Sheboygan visiting her parents this weekend, maybe you guys would like to get together? Drop me a line lordmorvan -at- yahoo. Or give her parents a call after Friday evening (458-9687). Oh, and do you happen to know of a good source for 18 ga 1035 or 1050 in Sheboygan? I'm having trouble finding any down here, and would like a bit for several projects.
-morvan / john graham
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:42 pm
by Gruber
Very cool guys... Ingrid and I will be there. Let me know if there's anything I can bring .... My patterns have finally found their way home to me now so I'll be bringing those up with me. I'll have the finger gauntlet, sexy legs, and Two different patterns for "KICK ASS" pauldrons that allow full range of motion without getting caught in your backplate

Are you guys talking about the "brat stop" restaurant??? cool place
supplies to bring?
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:51 pm
by Garreth
My lady and I are thinking of taking a long weekend and driving up. My question is what to bring as far as tools or supplies? I figure gloves and eye / ear protection are a given. What other tools etc. would you bring?
Re: dog-gone-it!
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:28 am
by rmermuys
Morvan wrote:Why is it that you guys start having armour-ins AFTER I leave Wisconsin?
anyone want to have a 'southeastern ohio' armour-in?
randy -- Jess and I are going to be in Sheboygan visiting her parents this weekend, maybe you guys would like to get together? Drop me a line lordmorvan -at- yahoo. Or give her parents a call after Friday evening (458-9687). Oh, and do you happen to know of a good source for 18 ga 1035 or 1050 in Sheboygan? I'm having trouble finding any down here, and would like a bit for several projects.
-morvan / john graham
Lord Morvan,
I don't have any sources for 1050 in Sheboygan, but we have some 1050 in the shop. They're doing some work in the building the shop is in I think this weekend and it'll be closed from Friday to Sunday. If I know how many SQ FT you need, I could cut some up and bring it back to Sheboygan.
My number is 920-458-1901, give me a call.
-Randall
Re: supplies to bring?
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:31 am
by rmermuys
Garreth wrote:My lady and I are thinking of taking a long weekend and driving up. My question is what to bring as far as tools or supplies? I figure gloves and eye / ear protection are a given. What other tools etc. would you bring?
We have some protective gear, but as this is starting to sound like alot of people are going to be attending, more is better.
Any work that you have done in the past, items you are working on now, etc for show and tell or comments would be a good bet. Your favorite hammer possibly at a minimum.
I guess If I didn't already have most of my stuff already down at the shop, I'd bring as much as I could within reason just in case.
This, of course, coming from the guy who hauls a 16ft 7K enclosed trailer around to camping events.
-Randall
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:32 am
by rmermuys
Gruber wrote:Very cool guys... Ingrid and I will be there. Let me know if there's anything I can bring .... My patterns have finally found their way home to me now so I'll be bringing those up with me. I'll have the finger gauntlet, sexy legs, and Two different patterns for "KICK ASS" pauldrons that allow full range of motion without getting caught in your backplate

Are you guys talking about the "brat stop" restaurant??? cool place
How is the hardening of 1050 going? Do you have any information about it that you can share?
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:32 pm
by St. George
I just found out that the bulb on my projector burned out- If I have a enw one in time for the armor in I will bring it- otherwise, there won't be any need for me too.
Alaric
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:37 pm
by Sigeric
I'm still checking to see if I'm going to be able attend or not but if I do, are there places to stay close by??
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:59 pm
by Kenwrec Wulfe
DukeAlaric wrote:
PS- I know that I will get no end of crap from a large group of guys who wear white belts if I don't go to TOC, but dammit I love armor...
Your Grace,
I will stand with you against them all, for I love armor too!
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:08 pm
by Kenwrec Wulfe
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:58 pm
by Wilhelm zu Eltz-Kempenich
Im kinda hoping Darivus has an Armour In this spring some time. I know theres a few archivers in Minnesota that would likely attend, myself included. He's in Anoka, 35 miles north of Minneapolis or so (as am I). Beyond that I cannot go anywhere without a license (no job = no income = no insurance). I oughta contact him one of these days.
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:40 am
by Chuck Davis
Gruber wrote:Very cool guys... Ingrid and I will be there. Let me know if there's anything I can bring ....
Hey Gruber. Aaron and I were talking about getting you to talk about the case hardening you've done. Would the be possible? How about bring the basic tools for that, or email us and we can talk.
-Cad