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Stainless Brazier
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 9:16 am
by Edric
Anyone have experience dishing a stainless brazier for a woman with d-cup breasts?
If I finish my scale skirt this weekend, I may start working on this for my lady. I want to try to dish it, but it may turn into my first raising project.
The brazier will be used with waz hardend leather scale torso and back in case anyone was interested.
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--Edric de Aldebury--
edric@edricsrose.com http://www.edricsrose.comFlos est puellarum, quam diligio, et rosa rosarum, quam sepe video.
"My love is a flower among virgins, and a rose among roses"
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 10:51 am
by Ted Banning
There is a bit of a difference between a brazier and a brassiere ! I don't think you want to cook a woman's boobs, so I'll assume it's the latter.

The difficult think with the breast shape is the effects of gravity. If only boobs could defy it.... My point is you can't just dish out a sperical shape; from collarbone to nipple is usually almost a straight line, whereas from nipple to body is about 90 degrees of arc. Not to mention that the bust has to shifted forward to not interfere with the arm. Make sure you schedule many personal fittings to get it right!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 11:17 am
by Edric
Exactly why I am asking for anyone with experience with this

and why it may turn into a raising project.
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--Edric de Aldebury--
edric@edricsrose.com http://www.edricsrose.comFlos est puellarum, quam diligio, et rosa rosarum, quam sepe video.
"My love is a flower among virgins, and a rose among roses"
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 11:43 am
by Steve S.
"...it may turn into a raising project."One has to wonder what will be raising up on this project...

Steve
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 11:49 am
by Shamey
Could you let me know how difficult this turns out to be? And possibly post patterns that have worked? I am the same cup size and what you describe making is what I have thought about having since I startted fighting.
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Leah of Newcastle
Man-at-Arms to Syr Malcolm MacEoghainn
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 1:45 pm
by Krag
Tell Keri we'll just hot form the metal to her next time I have the forge running

. Leah, you're welcome to come over as well.
I'll dig out the one I made a while back. It was an A cup, but the idea is the same. I made a ladel out of 16 ga last night in about 5 minutes, a D cup shouldn't be any harder. You really don't want to make the armour some sort of valkyrie style cone the full size. This would be pretty painfull. Most women I've talked to try to bund them down a bit. I guess it would be the same difference as wearing a jock strap and cup vs. actually filling a protruding cod piece with your testicles out in front of your body. I don't care what guage the steel is...it would hurt! Go the Iron Rose site and read some of their stuff. Email them for suggestions as well.
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Krag von Berghen
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 2:49 pm
by Shamey
Ya know Krag that sounds like fun!
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 4:49 pm
by Krag
LOL! Whole new meaning for hot and bothered!
Maybe I should launch a new ad campaign...

P.S. I just noticed I screwed up your name in the other post! Who's Kelly the Shameless? Or was that an old handle of yours? Oh well...just another brainfart day!
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Krag von Berghen
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 5:01 pm
by Patrick
Long time ago, I read about how one armorer did the bra cups for a C-cup woman. He went to the sewing store and bought a pattern for a woman's bra. Then he used the D-cup size. He pointed out that with a cloth bra, it can move with the breast flesh, but steel won't.
The cup was in 2 pieces in the pattern, so there was a lot less dishing on the piece. he welded it and *carefully* cleaned up all the welding splatters on the inside, polished the outside and I think lined it with satin or velvet. It was a fantasy/renn fair thing, but it must have been stunning!
Just some thoughts.
-Patrick
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 5:54 pm
by Norman
BTW,
If you're not doing a Fanasy thing but rather a period piece along the lines of the materials here:
http://www.geocities.com/normlaw/page3.htmlThere's alot between the actual Bosom and the piece of metal.
These things are not supposed to be form fitting.
Don't worry too much that it is a "D-cup" breast but treat it a any part of the body to be armoured.
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Norman J. Finkelshteyn
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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/3505The Silk Road Designs Armoury -
http://www.enteract.com/~silkroadJewish Warriors -
http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriorsThe Red Kaganate -
http://www.geocities.com/kaganatesilkroad@spam.operamail.com (remove "spam" from e-mail to make it work)
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 6:02 pm
by Shamey
Krag my former name was Kelley the Shameless, and am still called Shameless. Leah of Newcastle came about because my knight felt a more respectable name was appropriate. I still think Syr Shameless and Queen Shameless have a nice ring to it.

I will always answer to Shameless tho.
Thanks for the link Norman - I *really* like the picture - I definitely will have to try to make something like that... will worry about fitting in with my English persona later

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 6:41 pm
by Baccus
Norman,
Font of all things esoteric and exotic. Nice website by the way! Lots of neat information.
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William of Almaden
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 8:21 pm
by Lodhur
My GF is 7 weeks pregnant, begging me to make her a cuir-boulli brassiere. Just the excuse I needed to get her into armour. I spose I'd better get it done before the tenderness dies down, or I'll miss a window of opportunity. I've just gotta figure in the growth factor...
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 12:57 am
by Krag
I made one for my wife...then she got pregnant and never returned to the "before size". One of these days I'll finish it up for loaner armour for women. I think I still have a pic of me wearing it on my site under "female armour".
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Krag von Berghen
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