The Armour Archive

Thanks for clearing that up for me, i heard of terrible conitions but clearly thats not so.

To add some first-hand experience to what Jeff said, I can advise that there are no children invloved in the production of any GDFB product.

The workshop in which all items are produced is a safe environment to work. The staff are all adults and are salaried well above the Indian average earnings, and indeed above that of their national peers. There is a strong community culture and they are supported by a comprehensive welfare policy.

The conditions they work in are different to that you will see in the US. The conditions you see in the US are different to that in the UK - it's about culturatl difference.

No-one involved in the production of GDFB products is being expolited - on the contrary, we deal with these people because they are well paid professional craftsmen.

On the issue of other people's products, again I would state that we are not running anyone down. I have not seen Steve's products and would pass comment even if I had. I haven't met Steve, but his reputation is excellent and I wouldn't want to tarnish that. We are here to talk about what we produce, not what other people are doing.

We hope that people will be interested in how we can deliver quality items to meet their needs and are working hard to meet that expectation. If you like what GDFB has to offer please contact Jeff at Historic Enterprises; if you like what we do you will buy from us - if not there are others out there that may service your needs. It is about choice at the end of the day.

Regards

M

Sorry - above should have read:

"I have not seen Steve's products and would NOT pass comment even if I had."

ha-ha-de-ha-ha I got my standard i got my standard and you aint got one ---- hehehe

got it, love it. just gonna have issues with making the liner for it. i'm not very sewing apt. should i make a padded tube and attach the top of the mail to it?

I think it's like a neck jack. a few layers of linen attached to the top row of links should do. Does it buckle up at the back or does it expand enough to slip over your head? Is it hard to swallow and breathe?

A 15th century "Standard" or collar which is worn around the neck usually under the cuirass. Usually worn attached to a neck band of leather lined with quilted linen padding (not included).

Thats the description on the site seems simple enough even for a beginner.(famous last words)

Wolf, I'm going to show Jeff your post! Being the "Renaissance man" he is, he ignores the fact that not everyone knows how to sew or wants to. When I suggested we sell the standards already set up on a collar (being the manufacturer of the padded collars for custom standard orders) he blew me off with a "Pshaw Gwen, we don't have to, the collars are too easy to make".

Maybe now he'll change his tune! Personally, I think we should offer them mounted and unmounted and let the client decide, but that's just my opinion.

Gwen

Black Swan Designs wrote:Wolf, I'm going to show Jeff your post! Being the "Renaissance man" he is, he ignores the fact that not everyone knows how to sew or wants to. When I suggested we sell the standards already set up on a collar (being the manufacturer of the padded collars for custom standard orders) he blew me off with a "Pshaw Gwen, we don't have to, the collars are too easy to make".

Maybe now he'll change his tune! Personally, I think we should offer them mounted and unmounted and let the client decide, but that's just my opinion.

Gwen

geez, maybe my annyoing (sp) email to him on how to lay one out will help too. hehehehe. ya i definitly think collars would be nice. to bad i already have the standard

You know, making an arming doublet like the one pictured with the maille wouldn't be too shabby an idea, either, for you guys at HE. Lots of people who are too lazy to make their own. *looks around to see if I'm the only one*

Bill, I'm not saying anything more than keep an eye on our featured product for January 1, 2005. New year, new products....

Gwen

Black Swan Designs wrote:Bill, I'm not saying anything more than keep an eye on our featured product for January 1, 2005. New year, new products....

Gwen

Tease

Guy Dawkins wrote:

Black Swan Designs wrote:Bill, I'm not saying anything more than keep an eye on our featured product for January 1, 2005. New year, new products....

Gwen

Tease

Guy - you have no idea:

For instance, there is the XXXXXXXXXX, and the XXXXXXX, as well as the XX century XXXXXXXX and the XX century XXX XXXXXXX - all of which I may or may not have seen myself....

Sasha_khan wrote:

Guy Dawkins wrote:

Black Swan Designs wrote:Bill, I'm not saying anything more than keep an eye on our featured product for January 1, 2005. New year, new products....

Gwen

Tease

Guy - you have no idea:

For instance, there is the XXXXXXXXXX, and the XXXXXXX, as well as the XX century XXXXXXXX and the XX century XXX XXXXXXX - all of which I may or may not have seen myself....

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Stop it, your killing us!!!!

Must not spend money, must not spend money, must not spend money.
Ah its no use.