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I will let #5 explain...

Halberds

Actually....except for the spikes..I think its pretty nifty

so, you say this is for Glen Kyle?

First, I have to lay down that the craftsmanship is not bad at all! In fact, it's quite professional.

The helm is, however, very fantasy... Which, with generalized definitions of fantasy armour, says a lot.

Otherwise, good job Kyle! I like it! (Kind of)

Hal, thats just cool.

One question, Hal- is this for SCA? Has only internal welds passed inspection for you before?

I had to reweld a greathelm on all the outside seams because they defined them as sandwich joints because of the overlap. Maybe there's a "superior workmanship clause" in there, I can't remember.

Just wondering.

Is there anything behind that decorative brass cross? From what I see of it, its a hole in the helmet with a thin plate over it. If the rivets holding it on break under a hit, that would... hurt, I think.

I kninda dig it...without spikes anyway. Looks like a fantasized version of a Mac Bible helm. I kinda dig the spangen too.

Wouldn't breathing be easier without the brass over the cross hole?

Christopher

Horradrick wrote:One question, Hal- is this for SCA? Has only internal welds passed inspection for you before?

I had to reweld a greathelm on all the outside seams because they defined them as sandwich joints because of the overlap. Maybe there's a "superior workmanship clause" in there, I can't remember.

Just wondering.

Here's the construction quote:
All joints or seams shall be constructed in one or a combination of the
following ways:
· Welded on the inside and outside.
· Welded with a single bead that extends through both surfaces.
· Lap joints welded or brazed at the edges of both pieces.
· Helms will be riveted with iron or steel rivets no more than 2-1/ 2
inches (63.5 mm) apart, or with equivalent riveting techniques. Screw
Marshal’s Handbook
10
and or pop type rivets, along with other lightweight rivets, are not to
be used.
· Welds must be sound and rivets secure.

The 'superior workmanship' thing is under securing face bars inside instead of outside.

And to all, it was I who inspected Horradrick's helmet. (It does look a lot better now, and isn't as likely to give the marshall's hives.) Actually, the deinition was 'lap joints'.

There is an oddity (among the host of others) with some of these rules. In this particular case, if Horradrick had made a moveable visor, the side joints wouldn't have needed to be connected to the main part of the helm at all. (It was, in fact, the top of the helm that most needed fixing. He had the bottle cap tab thing going on with dodgy welds holding it down.) But, because it was joined, it needed to have the join conform to the rules. I have lots of other rants with the helm rules in particular.

Horradrick wrote:One question, Hal- is this for SCA? Has only internal welds passed inspection for you before?

I had to reweld a greathelm on all the outside seams because they defined them as sandwich joints because of the overlap. Maybe there's a "superior workmanship clause" in there, I can't remember.

Just wondering.

Here's the construction quote:
All joints or seams shall be constructed in one or a combination of the
following ways:
· Welded on the inside and outside.
· Welded with a single bead that extends through both surfaces.
· Lap joints welded or brazed at the edges of both pieces.
· Helms will be riveted with iron or steel rivets no more than 2-1/ 2
inches (63.5 mm) apart, or with equivalent riveting techniques. Screw
Marshal’s Handbook
10
and or pop type rivets, along with other lightweight rivets, are not to
be used.
· Welds must be sound and rivets secure.

The 'superior workmanship' thing is under securing face bars inside instead of outside.

And to all, it was I who inspected Horradrick's helmet. (It does look a lot better now, and isn't as likely to give the marshall's hives.) Actually, the deinition was 'lap joints'.

There is an oddity (among the host of others) with some of these rules. In this particular case, if Horradrick had made a moveable visor, the side joints wouldn't have needed to be connected to the main part of the helm at all. (It was, in fact, the top of the helm that most needed fixing. He had the bottle cap tab thing going on with dodgy welds holding it down.) But, because it was joined, it needed to have the join conform to the rules. I have lots of other rants with the helm rules in particular.

Anyway, helms appear to be the only thing that Horradrick has troubles with. The rest of his kit is very nice.

Yes, Kyle built this helm and he wants to fight SCA.

Hal

Halberds wrote:Yes, Kyle built this helm and he wants to fight SCA.

Hal

structurally speaking it looks very well done.

From a historical stand point it looks like the helmet of the leader of the Juns from "BeastMaster" and better suited for a fantasy LARP group than SCA combat.

raito wrote:Actually, the deinition was 'lap joints'.

This again....

<sigh>

I'd think those spikes would chew up rattan like a mo fo in SCA combat... And is it just me, or does the back of the bottom of this helm look like it slopes waaaay too much? Upwards, I mean. It just has the look that if you sit it on your head, face guard almost flush against your face, the back would be flaring out way too much. But, if you sat it with the back of the helm more flush against your head, the front would be angled way far away from your face. Just from the photos provided, unless he has absolutely no neck whatsoever, the helm looks just a little hard to pass SCA safety guidelines.

Looks damned cool, though. I like it.

-Ed

thanks for the input as for the spikes chewing up rattan they are removable the back flair only appears to be to high planned to wear a bever with helm now have decided to build different helm