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What I have been building instead of armour....update.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:52 pm
by Sasha
Hey kids! Want to spend more then 50 hours on something and not be able to use it in battle?
Want to have all the fun of cutting yourself, generating metal splinters, getting frustrated and burning your fingers on not quite cooled things that you know you shouldn't throw across the room?

Well have I got the project for you!

This is a Viking/Anglo Saxon pouch lid I have been working on. I took some progress pics and thought I would post them here.
Should be posting completion pics late today or tommorrow, depending on how snotty I am feeling (when your sinuses are concreted all the way down to your ancles your eyes water. And then you cannot see well enough to cut a fine line with a jeweller's piercing saw)

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The design is applied to the metal by cheating furiously. I grab and adjust my design and then photocopy it. I then contact adhesive the paper directly to the metal like this:

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I then drill and cut right through the paper using the wonderfully sharp lines that are generated.

The swan knotwork is form the Book of Kells. The critters are borres style gripping beasts.

Once the cuts have all been made, I follow any lines that need defining with a very small chisel to cut in the lines. I built the hammer I use to drive this chisel out of a cheap centre-punch. It weighs very little but gives me great control. The chisels are also cut up centre-punches...actually I think they were a cheap set of nail sinking punches.

Once all the lines are chiseled in I put the metal onto a kitchen cooktop and burn off the paper and glue. this also allows me to anneal at every stage.

The copper beasts are then added into the brass facing:
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Copper is backed behing the brass knotwork and brass behing the copper beasts.

Some hammered silver insets then go into the swan bodies.

More updates soon.

Sasha



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Work like you were living in the early days of a better nation

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:59 pm
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Sasha:

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I hereby declare you a madman. A <u>very talented madman</u>, but a madman all the same.

Fine work, BTW.



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Robert Coleman, Jr.

The Noble Companie and Order of St. Maurice
<B>Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.

Remember: In Living History/Reinactment, Real Life is the Great Leveler of Man.</B>

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:11 pm
by Rurik
Very nice work! I have been making Coronets recently and use that method of transfering designs to metal myself! Don't feel bad - if the Medievalists could have done it, they sure would have!

Rurik

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:19 pm
by Sasha
I don't feel bad at all. I did my training where they wouldn't let me do that sort of stuff. The piece got pianted with a white wash and then had the design transfered either by eye or with carbon paper form your pencil drawing. Then you would need to scribe each line carefully and then you could start thinking about cutting.

Took me about three projcts of that to decide "okay, I'm over it"...and the designs are sharper and have fewer "generations" this way.

Also, if you just rub wax on the back of the metal you are cutting rather then directly waxing the blade of the piercing saw, you will not get sticky wax coming up in your curf to stop you seeing where you are going.

Sasha


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Work like you were living in the early days of a better nation

-Oysterband

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:34 pm
by Cet
That's beutiful and inspiring work Sasha. Keep it up.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:41 pm
by Templar Bob/De Tyre
Uh...Sasha?

Hate to bring it up, what with all the other work you've had to do (which is quite good, I might add)...but how's the mace coming along..? Image



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Robert Coleman, Jr.

The Noble Companie and Order of St. Maurice
<B>Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.

Remember: In Living History/Reinactment, Real Life is the Great Leveler of Man.</B>

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 10:48 pm
by Sasha
Now that I have a digital camera working again, there will be mace pics shortly!

I will probably drop them on the weapons board. I will drop you a line to let you know.

Sasha

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 7:18 am
by Vermin
"Also, if you just rub wax on the back of the metal you are cutting rather then directly waxing the blade of the piercing saw, you will not get sticky wax coming up in your curf to stop you seeing where you are going."

You, sir, have solved a nagging problem that has been vexing me for some time.
I believe I owe you (at the LEAST) a beer.
Thank you VERY much.

VvS

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 9:08 am
by Ulfr of Wulf Den
Beautiful work.

-Edit-
Can you tell me what tools you used to do it?

Thanks,
-Ulfr

[This message has been edited by Ulfr of Wulf Den (edited 08-29-2002).]

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:35 am
by Prince Of Darkmoor
Damn Sasha, nice work! I won't call you crazy though; we already know you're a few chicken wings short of a buffet Image

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 11:26 am
by Rainald
Awesome work; How big is the piece so I can get a sense of scale?

Alas I think my most of my fine-work days are quickly fading. I find it almost impossible anymore to do anything close up without having to take my glasses off. #@#~!%& old age!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 3:29 am
by Watchman
wow that work looks magnificent. My hats off to the master craftsmen.


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