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Baked leather

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:41 pm
by schreiber
The search is not working, the search is not working. I tried.

I remember discussions on baking wet leather to harden it as opposed to boiling in water or immersion in hot water. Does anyone know of an article on this? I can find Cariadoc's pretty easily but it's about immersion.

Anyone?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:52 pm
by DELETEMYACCOUNT
go to houseofthewolf.com and look at the tutorials Dan posted there. That's the best I've ever seen on the subject.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:58 pm
by Johann Lederer
Baked Leather...It's what's for dinner!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:26 pm
by Maelgwyn
Try the hide glue marinade and the gesso topping. Paint to taste (or lack thereof). Yum!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:06 pm
by schreiber
What, no pot jokes yet?

Maelgwyn, do you know anything about using hide glue? Cause hide glue I got.

Seriously, I've got scads of 10oz sitting around (just organized the leather recently) and 2 guys I need to armor up in the next year. I've never done any hardening other than the generally frowned-upon wax immersion, and any help or direction to articles would be handy.

Edit: thanks for the houseofthewolf articles, they have a bunch of good info in them. But I think he's relying more on the thickness of the leather (16 oz) and not the hardening. I'm looking to work with between 8 and 10 oz and get maximum results.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:44 pm
by Maelgwyn
Search works fine for me now...

See http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... ake#804282

for how I harden leather with hide glue.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:55 pm
by schreiber
sweet, thanks!

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:30 pm
by Kilkenny
schreiber wrote:What, no pot jokes yet?

Maelgwyn, do you know anything about using hide glue? Cause hide glue I got.

Seriously, I've got scads of 10oz sitting around (just organized the leather recently) and 2 guys I need to armor up in the next year. I've never done any hardening other than the generally frowned-upon wax immersion, and any help or direction to articles would be handy.

Edit: thanks for the houseofthewolf articles, they have a bunch of good info in them. But I think he's relying more on the thickness of the leather (16 oz) and not the hardening. I'm looking to work with between 8 and 10 oz and get maximum results.


Actually, no, Dan's not relying on the heavy leather. He's hardening the living daylights out of it *and* it's heavy leather to start with.

I've been working with saddle skirting, which runs between 10 and 15 oz. and has a relatively soft hand to begin with. Using the glue method is producing quite acceptable results for me in that range.

I don't know about hardening 8 oz leather.

Gavin

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:21 pm
by Gerhard von Liebau
schreiber wrote:Edit: thanks for the houseofthewolf articles, they have a bunch of good info in them. But I think he's relying more on the thickness of the leather (16 oz) and not the hardening. I'm looking to work with between 8 and 10 oz and get maximum results.


I had greaves from Dan that I just sold. I smacked myself really hard with JUST them on my shins with a 1.5" OAK dowel. Barely stung. I have his cuisses and have worn them for SCA combat. Hard as anything, I took a solid blow (according to marshal/opponent) to the inside of my leg and didn't even know I'd been hit there.

He hardens the stuff, all right. He also uses 13-15 ounce leather, usually, but does some pieces in what seem to be lighter weights as well. Nothing heavier than that, though, really.

-Gregory-