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Gothic Arms Part 2 (*PICS*)
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:57 pm
by Klangiron Skullthumpa
Got a little more done. I hate the cheap buckles, leather and hinges but the customer is a collage student and wanted to save a few dollars.

[img]http://www.mysticmetals.net/PHOTO700.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.mysticmetals.net/PHOTO703.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.mysticmetals.net/PHOTO710.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.mysticmetals.net/PHOTO711.JPG[/img]
Now for the top arm wrap and a good coating of oil.

btw.. I plan on entering these in a SCA A&S contest at a local event this weekend.
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Fear the wrath of a patient man.
[This message has been edited by Klangiron Skullthumpa (edited 11-19-2002).]
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:37 pm
by Lion du Fay
You can still make cheap leather look nice by edge trimming and applying a little neatsfoot oil. Simple, but effective.
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:38 pm
by Drake Orion
I would have to say work on your articulation, but it does look nive
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:00 am
by Halberds
Yo Klang. Do not let them pinch your knee skin. How did you do the blue? Nice fluting too. I am still stuck with helms.
You is being a armour. Yes?
Hal.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:08 pm
by Klangiron Skullthumpa
Thanks guys, The arficulation works rather smoothly although where the flutes set on top of each other are a bit rough. It was my first attempt to try to do all this fluteing and the patterns I made for the pointed lames are a bit off. The customer wanted the tips pointed outward slightly and I think I overdid them

The blueing was just heating with my lil propane torch until I got an blue and I then gave it a wipe with some transmission fluid to get the darkening. Again the guy its for had seen the other stuff I had blued and saw the peacock purple swirls through it and wanted more of those so I did it by not so even heating. Actually the flute ridges helped with that.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 12:51 pm
by Ideval
While the lames might articulate smoothly, the main constructive advice is to dish the cop significantly deeper. In the picture, the cops are nearly flat. (Gundo mentioned fluting into a curved dish to help maintain shape).
Good job.
Idëval
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:56 pm
by Drake Orion
Opps yeah that's what I meant to say...arrghh damn laptop keyboard!
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:13 pm
by Alcyoneus
Nice, I hope it does well! My "constructive" criticism is this: I would generally expect the ear on the elbow to "bow" inward to the crotch of the elbow, and flare out to the bicep and forearm from the center. It makes it much more difficult to form, though. NO, I haven't done one myself.

So take my free criticism for what it is worth, which is what you paid for it.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:21 pm
by herumor
very cool. Just one question. Are you concerned about the metal losing hardness due to the uneven heating of the metal in the blueing process? Maybe a stupid question, I was just wondering. I still think they look really cool.
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herumor
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:46 pm
by Guillaume2
huremor: since the metal is (i guest) cheap mild steel that have been cold rolled, it only have a very little harness from the cold rolling process and while what you say is true...u wont see any difference whitout a precision electronic rockwell tester.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:51 pm
by Klangiron Skullthumpa
Idëval - I'll have to try the curved surface for fluteing.. thanks. I generally have been using a groove in my stump or a lead block.
Alcy- your right.. the fans should be curved a bit more just hadn't done that yet
herumor- since I heat it to blue, when I wipe it with the oil it should actually give it a bit of a temper. Then again as Guillaume2 mentions it is mild steel and what little lose or gain in hardness is not that great in the long run
Once again thanks guys.

They're not the prettiest and the smoothest in the world but yall have now idea how proud I am of them.
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 3:24 pm
by Guillaume2
just a little info about heat threating,the temperature when you heat it whit a "normal" (read:cheap) propane torch(whitout oxygen combo) is not high enought to quench it so even if u put it in oil or water,it will softer the metal a bit
once again...it is mild steel so we dont care of all these thing:P
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 2:28 pm
by herumor
ok I was just curious.
thanks
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herumor