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quick change center hinge for grill/visor?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:33 pm
by Jess
I want to make my bar grill and my klappvisor easily interchangeable, so I can swap out without any tools or serious effort at an event or practice. I currently have a simple center hinge.

I am not mailing my helmet off for a professional to do it.

Any idiot proof instructions out there?

Thanks!

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:05 pm
by Nikos

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:44 pm
by Ingelri
The easiest way is to cut a slot the same diameter as your hinge pin in the front of the center bar of the visor. Tip your visor up and the visor slides off by way of this slot. Close the visor and it can't come off. All you need is a hack saw.

Ingelri

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:52 pm
by Klaus the Red
Duplicate post

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:55 pm
by Klaus the Red

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:09 pm
by Jess
Actually, your post was the first one I could understand.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:21 pm
by Klaus the Red
Well, thankee- what I meant was there are easier and less labor-intensive ways to install the hinge than by my method, I'm sure.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:15 am
by Jess
I understand it. I'm not capable of doing it, but my father might be.

Since my bascinet already has a center hinge installed that attaches the bar grill (and it looks like my klappvisor is gong to "mate" with it without difficulty), I was hoping that there was some simple yet authetic removeable pin/bolt that would slide in and out that doesn't look like ass.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 am
by Konstantin the Red
Well, the Brian Price hinge that Klaus used on his own bascinet is a good one. You'd need two of these, one each for your iron Klapp and one for your bargrill. Period attachment/demounting method. You end up switching the vertical bar to which each visor is attached.

Looks good, involves some cash for two copies. I believe Klaus fitted his hinges himself in his own shop.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:48 am
by Klaus the Red
The easiest, non-period approach to Brian's hinges is to rivet the long half permanently onto the helmet, rivet a short half (one each from two different hinges) onto each visor edge, and use a bolt with a nut as the hinge pin; to swap visors, simply unthread the bolt, trade out, and replace the bolt. You could also use a short steel rod and a cotter pininstead of a bolt and be less obtrusively modern.

A second, more period approach is to rivet a complete and permanently assembled hinge onto each visor, then tool and attach two pins to the helmet forehead: one round, one with a flat head like a key or rowing oar. The top round hole in the hinge fits over the round pin (duh) and the slot below it fits over the key pin. You turn the key vertically in the same orientation as the slot to mount the visor, then turn it back 90 degrees to lock the visor in place. It has to be riveted loosely enough to turn easily with the fingers but not so loose that it will work its way to the open position in action.

My version with the leaf spring is more secure, IMHO, but less authentic mechanically, at least to the 14th century.

K

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:56 am
by Mad Matt
Those hinges from revival are fool proof. Highly recommended from me. It's what I use all the time.