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Where it's made? ------- X-POST 1370-1400 BAS

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:22 pm
by Kit Houston
Some how I may have made the same post twice, if you read this elsewhere please pm me and ill remove one copy.



Some times it just works!
Shape, tack and ship OS for reproduction.

I think I have been lucky, below is the helm I’m getting made OS.
It is based on the one from Royal Armouries and is in its 2nd OS build and after a few minor tweaks on the final; I should have a really good helm.

I'm very happy with the helm part and the visor just needs larger eye holes and made a little longer visor (so it finishes at the bottom).

So what is this???

This has been, patterned, designed, redesigned and revised by me.
It has been manufactured 3rd, 4th, 5th generation metal smiths.
It’s mostly made by hand using basic hand tools.

It fits, looks the part and is diffidently done in the style of the time?

Does it matter where it's made?

If I said it was made by an apprentice here in my Australian workshop would that change your view?

Your thoughts?

[img]http://www.historicevents.com.au/equipment/basinet/heBasinet.jpg[/img]

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:52 pm
by InsaneIrish
dude, it looks good. What is the price on it. THAT is really what it is all about. :)

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:13 pm
by es02
*grins* I did wonder what those FB pics were about :P

Looks really good Kit, your right the eye slots need to be a fair bit bigger, IMO a 10mm gap should about do.

Visor looks almost like an intermediary stage between hounskull and a great bascinet, is that right or am I just loopy this morning?

Re: Where it's made? ------- X-POST 1370-1400 BAS

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:55 pm
by Eamonn MacCampbell
Kit Houston wrote:Does it matter where it's made?

If I said it was made by an apprentice here in my Australian workshop would that change your view?

Your thoughts?



Not at all...That is a fabulous looking helm...I wish I had an apprentice with that much talent...Course...I wish I could teach someone to have that much talent as well.... :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:00 pm
by Wulfgar
I like the look of the stuff you are getting made up Kit. Would this stuff be sufficient for SCA combat as well? if so I would say that there would be a couple of guys down in Tas that may get some stuff off you.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:09 am
by Sam O.
Oh, that is sweet, I love the profile shot.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:17 am
by AaronCarter
Made by an aprentice. Might shake some confidence out of things that you can't see in a pic (Are the welds solid, Does the visor articulate smoothly, etc...) once it's in hand and I can inspect closely it no longer metters.

Awesome helm by the way. :shock:

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:24 pm
by Mykaru
"Does it matter where it's made? "



Yes, it does to some people. Some people care only about price and don't care if it's made in India as long as it will pass inspection. Others do care that it is taking business away from people who work to improve themselves and the craft. If you're honest about your product, you'll end up with a lot less grief in the long run.

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:12 pm
by Konstantin the Red
es02 wrote:*grins* . . .Visor looks almost like an intermediary stage between hounskull and a great bascinet, is that right or am I just loopy this morning?


Bit o' loopage, I'd say. The hounskull is a little shorter and blunter than some of the greyhound specials known to the discipline, yeah, but we're not seeing the GB's monkey-muzzle or Boeing 767 nose. There's a 1450s GB out there that looks like a 767 that's squinting...

Unless I mistake, the extended skull and throat wrapper plate developed before the visor rounded and pulled back, around 1415-25.