The Armour Archive

Hello all,

I'm visiting Sutton Hoo tomorrow. I'm not sure how much of the stuff is there "in the original", but does anybody have anything they want me to look at / pick up?

If it's short notice, call me at +44 1379 898727.

Cheers

Adam L
/aethstan /sca drachenwald


[This message has been edited by adamstjohn (edited 08-07-2003).]

If possible, post any pictures you can get of the mail armor. Any info you can get on the mail would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! And have a great trip!



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Lord Thomas the Black
mailler, leathersmith
Rogue #693, Merc # 373
"It's only funny until someone gets hurt... then it's hilarious!"

Yes get me that cool helm with the face on it.

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I agree and also find out what size wire and size rings he is using. Also about the various metals and prices. What are the largest sizes does he do and anything else about his maille.

Thanks

Louys the Merchant
Coldwater Armourery
The Proto-Incipient Canton of Irongate

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<B>Hello all,

I'm visiting Sutton Hoo tomorrow. I'm not sure how much of the stuff is there "in the original", but does anybody have anything they want me to look at / pick up?

If it's short notice, call me at +44 1379 898727.

Cheers

Adam L
/aethstan /sca drachenwald


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Aeth,

Could you bring back that boat? I'm sure I could fit in in my garage. I'll pick it up from you at fighter practice sunday < wink >. Looks like Castle Mound in Thetford it is for Sunday 12:30. Will bring what I have.

Saranac

how about a visit from Ali's favorite Pelican?
Missing all of you D-walders now.

Elias

Hi all,

Had a great visit at Sutton Hoo - I like what the National Trust have done with it. The bookshop was dangerous

Thomas and Louys asked about mail. I didn't see any original mail there, but I did get hurried through some sections so I might have missed a fragment. I suspect it is all in Bloomsbury. I need to go back without my family...

There was some mail in the grave reconstruction, but it was mostly hidden under the pile of grave goods. It seemed to be made of quite large rings (say, 12 to 14 mm) but it was too far away to see any detail. Such big rings didn't seem to correspond very closely to the original findings: Angela Care Evans, (Sutton Hoo Ship Burial, British Museum Press 1986 Rev 1994, Ed 2002) says

"The mailcoat and axe hammer were buried wih the dead man's personal possessions. The mailcoat, folded several times, was placed on the burial chamber floor accros the axis of the ship. A leather garment or skin was spread over it and the fluted silver bowl was placed on top, its foot-ring pressing through the leather into the supple links.

The mail had corroded into a solid mass of iron so dense that radiography was unable to recover any details, but its bulk suggests that it may have been at least thigh length. It was made of finely forged iron links a uniform 8mm in diameter with rows alternately butt-jointed and rveted with tiny copper rivets. (snip)

No similar mass of mail has been found in an contemporary European context, although the technique of manufacture was known as fragments are occasionally found in high-satus graves. Face and neck-guards of mail of similar manufacture are also known from the chieftan's graves at Vendel and Valsgaerde in Sweden and from the slightly later helm from Coppergate, York."

Louys, I'm not quite sure what you wanted me to find out. The guy who made the Sutton Hoo mail has been out of buiness for a millenium or so... I guess you mean the person who reconstructed it? I couldn't get any info on who that was, but I could follow it up on the phone if you need to know.

Cheers

Adam L
/aethstan /sca drachenwald



[This message has been edited by adamstjohn (edited 08-09-2003).]

Thanks for the info! Very informative. Hope you had a good trip, welcome back.



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Lord Thomas the Black
mailler, leathersmith
Rogue #693, Merc # 373
"It's only funny until someone gets hurt... then it's hilarious!"