Knee Question

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Ceadda Moray
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Knee Question

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Hello everyone. Great looking community you have here, and a huge wealth of knowledge.

I am currently working on a set of knees based on Sinric's pattern and was wondering if there are any examples of the wing being riveted on after forming the cop. Maybe even something like a bessacue. (sp?)

I cut my pieces from some scrap I had and didn't have quite enough material. I'm going to buy some stock for the rest of my kit (mid 14th German) but I hate leaving something unfinished. I already feel the first hints of addiction of this craft.
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Rondels were sometimes riveted to poleyns.
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Post by Konstantin the Red »

Welcome and well come, Ceadda, to the Archive! [Hard C or soft?]

A besagew is a floating piece of armor covering the front of the armpit, and favored for its flexibility in consequence. At the joints, round thingies were roundels/rondels -- how very heraldic. A besagew was often circular, varying in diameter from about a dessert plate down to a teacup's saucer -- but by the second decade of the fifteenth century oblong shapes, variously treated, could be seen everywhere.

Since 14th-c. armor evolved faster and more comprehensively than armor had in centuries, about which decade or couple of decades do you figure you've got? If you're not sure, describe your harness and we can figure it out.

AFAIK there's nothing really wrong with a wing being a separate piece riveted on, and it's even likely in an experimental era like 1350-1400. It may even have German precedent.
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Re: Knee Question

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Ceadda Moray wrote:I am currently working on a set of knees based on Sinric's pattern and was wondering if there are any examples of the wing being riveted on after forming the cop.


Just about anything we can imagine was probably imagined by someone else 500+ years ago. ;)

There are a few examples of removable 'wings' in the 16thC, but I'd go with just the rondels if I were you.
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Post by Ceadda Moray »

Ahh, rondels! Bessacue... what was I thinking :roll: psst. check out the noob.

As for my harness, I'm aiming for a persona around 1350-1380. Not dead set on the time period but I'd like to use splinted limbs and a klapvisor.

Konstantin, it's pronounced with a hard 'C'. Thank you for the help everyone.
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